I've brought this up before, but have since gone with the general consensus that this is just too subjective, even if we were to come up with some kind of rubric to standardize things. A big and highly inconsistent issue between regions is regional attitude. I don't care for on-street riding, even in a reasonably extensive network of bike lanes in Portland largely because motorists have a tendency of ignoring lane access completely, often driving against traffic or in reserved lanes to save time with pretty flagrant disregard for safety. Or they just like to intentionally aim for cyclists and pedestrians for laughs. And the cycleways tend to be a congested and unpredictable clog of pedestrians, bicycles, and dogs either off leash or walking on the other side of the roadway from the person holding a 20-foot-long leash, clotheslining everything in their reach. It's an NP-complete perfect storm of pitfalls. Meanwhile, less experienced cyclists would feel safer or safe in any of those situations.
Meanwhile, there's very few streets in Tulsa, Dallas or Oklahoma City I don't feel too out of place on and cycleways generally have pedestrian facilities except in suburbs (mostly because the suburbs don't have the traffic to warrant them yet and passing is a nonissue save for the occasional rare blind curve, junction or hillcrest). Roads like Bixby's Memorial Drive (US 64) or Oklahoma City's Portland Avenue (OK 74), with their lack of shoulders, relatively high traffic volumes, and total lack of even a "share the road" sign might not pose substantial additional risk over a cycleway, mostly because the drivers are mellow. However, the average American would look at that and say, "Nope!" On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Stefan Keller <sfkel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > What about crowdsourcing dangerous bicycle locations using key/tag hazard? > See http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/DE:Key:hazard > And see also https://twitter.com/sfkeller/status/574213951644368896 > > Yours, S. > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >
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