On 27 May 2015 at 22:13, Frederik Ramm <[email protected]> wrote: > we're seeing more and more "name:xx" tags on OSM objects.
> The place node for London has 154 name tags as we speak FYI, the equivalent Wikidata item is: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84 You can see its names in various languages by clicking the "Labels list" tab (then note slidebar) > It is difficult to judge when such foreign names have a right to be > there, and when they're just inventions or name translations or > transliterations. Transliteratons are still useful to non-native speakers. > If a place has a wikidata tag, could/should we then simply defer to > Wikidata for names in other languages? Yes/ probably. > We are a database of geodata and not one of international cultural > heritage; even if London has a name in over 2000 languages, is OSM > really the place to record these 2000 names? Would it not be better to > record the wikidata link for London, and then (perhaps in co-operation > with people at Wikidata) provide means for people doing map rendering to > join OSM data with a separately-loaded translation table from Wikidata? A demonstrator, using Wikidata labels, is: http://googleknowledge.github.io/qlabel/demo/map/ (choose "select language"). Coders might enjoy viewing the source code. > We could then limit ourselves to using a "name" tag for the locally used > name, or continue to allow a "name:xx" but only if these languages were > actually used by the local population; throw in an int_name if you want > (but some may say that's already an unfair privilege for users of > English and the Latin alphabet). Anything else - i.e. names used for a > place in other languages than the local ones - would be off-topic for > OSM and should be recorded in Wikidata. Exactly. > Do you think Wikidata could play that role, and take the burden off of > us? Or is Wikidata not mature enough for that yet, or even unsuitable? While it continues to develop, it is already mature enough, suitable and available for this purpose -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
