On 3 October 2017 at 18:56, Christoph Hormann <o...@imagico.de> wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 October 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Hi, > > > > seeing that the matter is discussed quite intensively and opinions > > vary widely, could we perhaps agree to pause any (large scale) > > wikidata edits for a while until more members of our community have > > had a chance to form an opinion? > > I think that is a good idea. > I'm not happy with it, as the way I do it is sensitive to amount of data to work with, so if I don't run it regularly, I have to restart from fragments. But well, I might limit the query to Poland where the adding of wikidata entries is widely accepted. I will repeat Yuri's question here: If a specific community is ok with it, does it override world wide ban for that location? Also, I'm going to remove wikidata entries where the wikipedia tag points to a section in a wikipedia article as Spiegel0 pointed in http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52744495 (next weekend, I hope) as they are obviously erroneous. I won't do it globally, though, only in the region i have been adding wikidata entries (Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Baltic countries, Kaliningrad region, Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Austria and Hungary). * How many of the wikidata=* tags currently in the database have been > added through normal mapping (while adding or significantly modifying > the object otherwise) and how many have been added through systematic > efforts outside normal mapping? > Given that semi-automated edits might be done by unknown number of users, i'm afraid this information might be hard to obtain. > * What practical applications exist for the wikidata IDs? And i am not > talking about theoretical ideas here but specific uses for practical > purposes in actual use, in particular with open source implementation. > There are QA tools by Yuri Astrakhan and Mateusz Konieczny, both based on wikidata. > * To what extent has there been information transferred systematically > from Wikidata and Wikipedia to OSM based on wikidata ID references > (like adding names in different languages). As others have explained > this would be legally problematic and it would be important to know how > common this is. > To my knowledge nothing automatic of this kind exists so far, so there should be only a few manual edits of this kind. > Also i think it would be of great importance for OSM and a functioning > communication in the community to have better documentation of: > > * systematic wikidata ID addition/editing efforts (there seems to be > nothing listed currently on > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Automated_edits_log) > Ummm, I think I should document my edits... Now, to be frank, I can't see anything wrong in adding wikidata entries to existing wikipedia links in OSM objects and using them e.g. to display Wikipedia articles in users' preferred langages instead of "native" language of article pointed by wikipedia=* tag as long as we don't copy the data into OSM. mi...@pl.vwfsag.de <r.mi...@pl.vwfsag.de> ryszard.mi...@gmail.com دراجة أكبر
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