Am 23.03.2019 um 13:28 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > > > > Mar 23, 2019, 1:04 PM by [email protected]: > > > On 3/23/19 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >> >> >> Mar 23, 2019, 9:59 AM by [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>: >> >> ... Producing false updates (aka no real content) just >> obscures that fact and makes it more difficult to determine >> which areas need to be revisted. >> >> It seems to me as not a real problem. There are many, many >> different indicators of such places >> and automatic edits are suitable to remove only very small part >> of them. >> > It's a real problem, for a couple of reasons - one is that "this > object might be out of date" warnings in e.g. Vespucci won't trigger > > Is it really a problem? It is only heuristic and there was no place > where I ever mapped that > I had problem because I run out of obvious indicators that something > needs to be fixed, resurveyed > or remapped.
Time since last edit is the only -non- heuristic measure of staleness in OSM. There are other ways to determine this, but they are are an order of magnitude more involved (essentially you need to retrieve prior versions and start comparing tags and geometries). And I wasn't even thinking specifically of Vespucci in this case (in principle for Vespucci it could be worked around by setting a fake survey_date in a mass edit). And to repeat, I'm not against removing tags when they are really an issue. For example last year we removed note tags from the locations of the major car sharing operation in Switzerland, roughly a 1'000 objects, because they indicated that the objects shouldn't be edited (originally they were imported), but there is no need to do so just for superficial aesthetic reasons, just as other normalisation for the sake of normalisation is contra productive in an OSM context. > > I opened https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/17512 (if it will pass I > will open equivalents > for iD and Vespucci). > > You don't need to do anything separate for Vespucci, simply make a PR against https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/data/discarded.json Simon
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