Hi Folks,

As a relatively new OSM editor, I tend to agree with the explicit tagging 
rather than implicit - it should help folks learn tags much faster

Cheers - Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Wiklund Johan [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, 24 May 2019 6:28 PM
To: Talk
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to 
railway/public_transport=platform

As a frequent mapper of public transport features, I agree with the opinions of 
Markus. Adding footway to the platform serves no purpose but to please poorly 
built routing engines.

Regards

Johan Wiklund
Data manager 
[email protected]
www.entur.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Markus [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: torsdag 23. mai 2019 18.11
To: Talk <[email protected]>
Cc: Bryan Housel <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to 
railway/public_transport=platform

Hello Bryan, hello everyone,

I'm posting this reply to Bryan's message on GitHub
(https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/6409#issuecomment-495231649)
here, as the issue has been locked by Bryan.

> Hey all, I've locked this topic. Inviting other people to jump on the thread 
> just to express disagreement is not very helpful.

While i really appreciate the work you and the other developers have put into 
iD, i find it demotivating and harmful that you refuse other opinions.

> Some people will disagree, and that's ok.

So far, everybody except you disagreed. If there is a clear majority, i expect 
the iD developers to follow it.

Moreover, this validation rule infringes upon these policies or guidelines:

* Automated Edits code of conduct
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct):
You take advantage of mappers unconsciously adding highway=footway to 
platforms. This is an automated edit.
* Map what's on the ground
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Map_what.27s_on_the_ground):
A platform is not a footway.
* Don't map for the renderer
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don.27t_map_for_the_renderer):
It's rater "don't map for the router", but the effect is the same.

> There exists no master list of all the routable features in OSM. This is 
> because people are always making up tags. It is unreasonable to expect 
> mappers and data consumers to "just know" what all the tags are that are 
> routable.

If the problem is the lack of a list of all routable features in OSM, then it 
should be solved by creating such a list, not by mapping for the router. (By 
the way, routable tags aren't added very frequently.) I guess it should also be 
possible to create a "routable" property for Wikibase (data items).

I kindly ask you to reconsider your decision, to not block opinions that differ 
from yours and to listen more to the community.

Best regards

Markus

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