The problem is www.openstreetmap.org has a link to edit OSM. When it
was first put in it probably was a very reasonable thing to do but we do
not have a change management system in place and over time iD has changed.
The real problem is new mappers will naturally edit OSM through the link
thinking it is the "official"way to do it and the editor has been tested
and approved etc.
However as stated iD is evolving and is becoming more powerful. I
understand in NYC a relative newcomer using the new validation feature
of iD has made a very large number of changes to NYC and that I think is
the sort of thing we wish to avoid.
So mentally split the idea of ID as an editor and what should be the
default editor for newcomers for OSM. The requirements seem to be
different. If iD is not the default editor on www.openstreetmap.org
then treat it the same as any other OSM editor.
If it is then I think it needs to be held to a higher standard that
protects new mappers from creating havoc. Whether this is a new mapper
switch or a reduced fork of iD or a requirement that you cannot edit the
map unless you have completed an online course and passed an exam first
I wouldn't like to say. I do know that HOT for example has very high
turn over of mappers so a forty hour training course might not be
welcomed by everyone even if we could agree the syllabus.
Cheerio John
Clifford Snow wrote on 2019-05-28 8:10 PM:
Why should one editor be held to higher standards than others?
Shouldn't they all be held to the same standard?
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM john whelan <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The problem with iD is the fact that it is the default editor on
the web page of the website which implies that everything is
OpenStreetMap approved which unfortunately is not the case.
If it's placed as the default editor then I think it needs to be
held to a higher standard or some sort of change management system
implemented.
Cheerio John
On Tue, May 28, 2019, 7:47 PM Clifford Snow,
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Michael,
Don't you think to be fair that you should include all outside
projects, such as JOSM, Potlatch, CartoCSS, etc? None of them
are controlled by OSMF as far as I know. To just look at one
software project seems like we already reached a decision, we
just need the data to back it up.
Best,
Clifford
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:47 PM Michael Reichert
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,
I started documenting controversial decisions by the
maintainers of iD
at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ID/Controversial_Decisions
Currently, only the highway=footway and the nonsquare=yes
issue are
mentioned.
Please feel free to add other issues which have proofed
controversial so
far. Don't forget to summarise the opinion of the
maintainer as well to
aim at least some neutrality as far as it is possible for
those involved
in the disputes. Please add links to relevant discussions
as well.
Best regards
Michael
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