On 03.07.2019 22:03, Jack Armstrong Dancer--- via talk wrote:
I've always had the impression we should not create separate traffic lanes unless "traffic flows are physically separated by a barrier (e.g., grass, concrete, steel), which prevents movements between said flows."

Yes, I agree in general. Nearly all cases can be modelled with turn:lanes (and 
maybe change:lanes).

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?changeset=70997250#map=20/39.57354/-104.98496

This case -- and the aerial image is necessary to understand it -- would be one of the few exceptions where I would tolerate the current mapping of a separate lane for the left turn. Otherwise a navigation engine would not be able to create the appropriate turn instruction at the point where the lane forks off. A much more complicated data model would be necessary.

tom

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