On Wednesday 11 September 2019, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Changing to a github-like system of version management would require > some people to serve as "maintainers" or "moderators" of the new, > curated list of Map Features / Tags, wouldn't it? While this could be > an improvement in the quality and consistency of how decisions are > made, it would also limit participation and centralize > decision-making.
I think we all realize that and i am not in any way a fan of formalized power structures and hierarchies. But we also can see that the wiki does not work as a means to document the de facto meaning of tags. OpenStreetMap is a broad community of people with very different abilities and skills. Not everyone is equally capable for every task within the project and hardly anyone is able to accurately assess their level of capability on everything and selflessly act accordingly. In the field of mapping the do-ocratic approach has been relatively successful in dealing with that (as long as we were talking about independent and unpaid local mappers only of course) because it is the base level of the project and is naturally grounded in the locally observable reality. But as i pointed out in my diary entry the same approach will not work on the meta-level of tag documentation where - if the documentation serves its purpose - what is written or modified by a single contributor is multiplied in effect and read and considered by many who use the documentation. This distorts the incentives and put bluntly leads to the wrong people dominating the wiki. And this is not solved by getting more prople involved in editing it. The community as a whole tries to compensate for that by giving less weight to the wiki as a source of information on tags but as Richard mentioned this leaves a big gap in terms of accurate, clear and precise documentation. Note curated documentation based on agreed on editorial principles does not necessarily mean a top-down imposed framework. Such documentation would naturally be under an open license and therefore could be forked so if someone at some point is dissatisfied with how this works they could always initiate a competing project with a different curating team and/or principles. My concern is less that of centralized decision making and control over an important resource but that it will be difficult to find, motivate, select and retain qualified people to work on this. And documentation of the de facto meaning of tags, potentially focused on the most important ones, is of course - though evidently important - only one aspect of what Roland wants to discuss here. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk