On 2019-11-04 12:17, Simon Poole wrote:
Am 04.11.2019 um 10:03 schrieb Maarten Deen:
On 2019-11-04 09:28, Simon Poole wrote:
Am 03.11.2019 um 23:08 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
...
it depends from whom you hide, but generally you should not use a
traceable email account if you want to remain anonymous. Using
Google would seem like a total no-go (they are even reserving the
right to read your emails). Use a live distro like tails (tor
browser, spoofs browser a system details, etc. ), do not connect
from your home or someone else’s home or any other places that you
are related to, do not use a third party login but create a new
account for every edit you make and use throw away email addresses
for signup. Use generic user names and email addresses created by a
random string generator, only use the most common tools like iD and
maybe josm, do not use rarely used tags, avoid changeset comments
and other free text fields like description and note.
Note, lots of the above would be violations of our ToU, and outside
of
that, neither desirable nor a good idea.
Lots? Care to elaborate on that? Where are the ToU, is it
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use_-_Discussion_Draft>
(to which I can have some comments too)?
..........
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use and linked to from
the
sign up page, and from the map page. There where multiple opportunity
last year to comment on the draft (which has nothing to do with the old
wiki page you linked too), which you seemed to have not used, even
though it was widely announced.
I have not used no. I generally don't concern myself with such things
because my views are generally not the views of people making these
policies (and are therefore usually ignored).
I was searching for it on the wiki and that was the only one I found. I
thought it was a bit stale since it wasn't touched since 2009 and no
discussion followed there.
In any case, I see that the "You must be 13 years or older to use the
Services." is still there.
Really? Someone under 13 can not look at the OSM map? I'm sorry, but
that is completely laughable. And not enforcable at all. Maybe you
should put a PG-13 sign on the map ;)
Also: 16 and 17 year old are also still a minor, even in the UK, and
they are not blocked from anything in the ToU?
In any case, if the link I posted are the ToU, I don't see any of
those points being a violation of the ToU. In the case of the account,
where the ToU says "You represent and warrant that the information you
provide to OSMF upon registration and, at all other times, will be
true, accurate, current, and complete" it is an empty point since
there is no verifiable information I _have_ to enter into my account.
Just a screen name (not my legal name) and an email address.
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use#II._Privacy requires
you to keep your contact information (which is currently your e-mail
address) current. This is not really new as it was implied by doing
away
with anonymous edits in 2007.
That is in no way a strange request. Yes, it more or less precludes
throwaway email adresses (you are at least required to respond I guess)
but it does not preclude using an anonymous email adress.
Further items like my location and a profile description are optional.
To be clear certain risk reduction measures are completely OK and we
outline these in the privacy policy, what is not OK is anything that
amounts to de facto making the edits anonymous to the OSMF.
It was more your assertion that "lots" of the items given would be
violations of the ToU where I come to 3 out of 11 that might be.
I still don't see where the lots comes from, you didn't care to
elaborate on that.
Regards,
Maarten
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