My understanding is that the common way to describe armchair mapping, based on aerial imagery, is to identify the imagery source. So I often write:
Changeset Comment: "Added and adjusted streams and rivers near Oksibil with ESRI" Changeset Source: "Esri world imagery" This makes it clear that I used Esri imagery to map the streams and rivers, right? - Joseph Eisenberg On 3/10/20, Sören Reinecke via talk <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey > > some ideas about identifying such changes: > > > Example changeset comment where a mapper did armchair mapping: > Data updated, added amenity=restaurant > #armchair > > In addition if the mapper works for a company: > # > e.g. #facebook > #amazon > #microsoft > #apple > > Example changeset comment where a mapper did a survey and added data as > (s)he saw it (from the ground): > #survey > > > > This way we can organize our changes and Facebook and other companies and > the community as well know how to validate and can distinguish changesets > from another. I could create a wikipage where we think about this "changeset > governance" > > Cheers > > Sören Reinecke alias Valor Naram > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution > From: Volker Schmidt > To: [email protected] > CC: > > >> >> >>> Fixing stuff in OSM purely from imagery may not be good. >>> >>> A local mapper who sees something may add it before any satellite imagery >>> has it. >>> >>> If you then 'fix' this back to the satellite imagery you will have >>> committed an error, >>> and that error may dissuade our most important resource from ever making >>> any further changes- the local mapper. >>> >>> Be very careful! >> >> >> I second this last line ! >> >> I am observing an influx of mixed-quality remote edits from Amazon >> Logistics in my area. >> I expect this Facebook operation to produce much more changes or potential >> changes (=suspected errors). >> What we need for both cases and similar ones in the future is a way of >> being able to identify such changes, which by their nature will be >> armchair-mapping efforts. >> I do not have a specific proposal, but I would appreciate a tool that >> helps me, as local mapper, find these edits, and, more importantly we >> need a new approach to organise digesting these massive distributed >> armchair-mapping interventions on OSM data. >> I don't realistically think that banning these activities is good for OSM. >> Not dealing in a systematic way with it at all presents, however, a big >> risk of deteriorating the map for two reasons: >> (1) bad armchair edits by Amazon and Facebook (and others) >> (2) demotivating non-armchair mappers >> >> I repeat I do not have a proposal how to handle that. My main concern is >> that the required work for locally checking even only those edits that >> need checking (I am assuming that at least FB has good algorithms to sort >> out the dead-certain corrections beforehand. I am more sceptical with >> Amazon's changing local access tagging to, essentially, "yes" everywhere >> they have delivered something by delivery van. I came across a good number >> of them, and in most cases they were at least dubious) >> >> Volker >> (Padova, Italy) > _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
