The fundamental point of this discussion is that the AI, the Artificial
Intelligence, does not exist yet. It is kind of a marketing gimmick.
Sure, there are good computer programs, there are sophisticated
automatons, but there is no AI, except in movies and serials.
Let me give you an example. There are machines in restaurants, which
wash the dishes. But the dishes must be cleaned manually from the food
leftovers, before putting them into the dish-washing machine. The army
of humans worldwide, millions of workers do this hard debilitating work
every day and night, because there is no AI good enough to pick up the
dish and clean it without breaking it.
Certainly, this problem could be solved by standardizing the dishes,
making them suitable for the automation, but my point is that there is
no AI smart enough to to do such a simple task, which even a child could
do easily. And we want to give the "AI" of this sort the task of drawing
the map of this complicated world.
Best regards,
Oleksiy
On 3/19/20 12:28, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
a propos a recent statement from our friends at Facebook in which they
make plans for the future of our project,
https://tech.fb.com/map-with-ai-updates/
Beyond AI-based data sets, one of the biggest challenges for OSM is importing
even readily available authoritative data sets
...
our hope is that RapiD can become a tool that’s simple enough for anyone to
import and verify new data sets and to make use of these powerful tools
I would like to reiterate that the "challenge" is not that it is
difficult to import "authoritative data sets"; the problem is that
authoritative data sets are fundamentally incompatible with the way we
operate in OpenStreetMap. To quote just an obvious example, the
government of India certainly has an authoritative data set about where
their boundaries are, it's just that this does not align with facts on
the ground and hence our data is different. The past has shown that
petrol station chains also have "authoritative" data sets about their
stations but they are riddled with bugs, and not suitable for wholesale
import.
I think that someone who cannot respect these basic tenets of
OpenStreetMap - that mappers on the ground have the last word on what
gets into OSM and what not - shouldn't be allowed to publish software
that interacts with our database. I think we should disallow any
contributions made with RapID/map-with-ai and friends.
Bye
Frederik
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