Hi, On 2020-06-09 12:32, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: > To me, OSMF wants the control of a project it hasn't developed but > turned out too successful to ignore,
The iD editor has been originally built by Mapbox funded by a grant from the Knight Foundation with the aim of being a good editor for OSM. That was before any of the people currently driving iD development came on board. Had it been "some GIS editing software that might or might not be used for OSM one day", it is very unlikely that this grant would ever have been given. iD was never a project that would have been viable without the OSMF's blessing (as in "if you get this editor to work then we'll put it on our web site"). > and to add insult to injury you are > asking the author to keep working on it by committing patches he > disagrees with. As far as I am aware, both former and current iD lead developers are doing their work within a full time IT job, not in their spare time. Their employer - US tech firms in both cases - asks them to spend time on iD because their employer wants to help OSM improve. Most employment situations bring it with them that you have to do something you disagree with now and then. We do not know what instructions the paid iD developers receive from their employers but it is obvious that they *could* receive instructions. Now, of course as long as everything purrs along smoothly, good software is created for a happy user base by happy developers and nobody interferes, that's all dandy. But if push comes to shove, and someone needs to decide how something is done, do we want US tech firms to decide what the official OSM editor does, or do we want the OSMF to decide what the official OSM editor does? > - It's deeply unethical. OSMF should foster the development of the OSM > ecosystem, not harass people working on it. How does this fit OSMF own > charter and CoC? I think you have a very warped view of the whole topic. Given that I haven't seen you on these lists before I must assume that you haven't followed any of the history, background, and past discussions about the matter. You're of course entitled to your point of view but your point of view doesn't really do much for the discussion when it is, obviously, based on the mistaken assumption that iD is a third-party hobby project that OSMF now wants to nefariously take control of because it has proven successful. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk