Dear Steve, thank you for reminding me there's something called ESRI.
they approached the Telegram group in March last year:
https://t.me/Comunidad_OSM_Panama/1641
<tg://resolve?domain=Comunidad_OSM_Panama&post=1641>
we were invited to a meeting, and I was able to accept the invitation.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Panam%C3%A1/Reuni%C3%B3n_2019-03-21
this was in preparation of an ESRI event celebrating the 500 years of
the city of Panama. I had always assumed the event never took place.
and I now guess it was this GisDay. was it around November13th 2019?
please notice how downplayed the role of YMUP.
the activity in Guna Nega do seem to follow step 1 in my
recommendations, and it disregards all subsequent steps, in particular
the last one.
needless to say, I never received feedback, nor acknowledgement for the
input I provided during the meeting.
oh well.
Mario
On 02/12/2020 16:44, Steve Friedl wrote:
FWIW, GIS Day is a thing: https://www.gisday.com/en-us/overview
<https://www.gisday.com/en-us/overview>
The local Governmental GIS Users group near me in California
celebrates it every year, though this year only virtually.
No comment on the rest, just answering one data point.
Steve
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*From:* Mario Frasca <ma...@anche.no>
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:24 PM
*To:* Rory Nealon <rnea...@usaid.gov>
*Cc:* OSM Talk <talk@openstreetmap.org>
*Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] time to review
Hi Rory,
let's include the list, so you're talking with the whole community,
not just to me.
BACKGROUND: we're trying to have the YouthMappers Chapter of the
University of Panama consider they're mapping within OSM, that there's
a local community of mappers already mapping, and with some experience
in different fields.
unfortunately, the YMUP Chapter refuses to reply to comments to their
changesets, or to consider complaints about their low quality of
edits, and the sheer mass of beginners they throw into not-too-simple
tasks. recently they had their yearly "Gis Day", please don't ask me
what it is, because I don't know, only that there's a hashtag being
used once a year by the YouthMappers UP Chapter. also please don't
ask me who's inside this chapter, because I don't know.
when Mateusz wrote to i...@youthmappers.org
<mailto:i...@youthmappers.org> about their organized editing activity
without declaration of intents, the result of his writing was that HOT
opened two projects on top of two areas we from the community were
editing using the tasking manager from tareas.openstreetmap.co,
forcing us to clean up the edits while they were coming in. that's
Santiago and Colón.
in Santiago we reverted several changesets, and made the effort to
close their project so they would stay away from the work which was
anyway almost complete.
in Colón we stopped editing downtown, leaving it to the YMUP Chapter.
there's still no published plan from the chapter, Rory says that they
are reviewing the tasks they had opened, but apart from beginner
mapper agreenish <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/agreenish>,
arguably adding to the mass of mistakes, I don't see much editing
activity in either project.
I will write a diary entry, with images, and will try to make it a
structured presentation of what goes on here. there's statistical
data I've collected that shows just how organized the edits from YMUP,
and I find it quite insulting, the mismatch between the words by
YouthMappers International, the call for patience by HOT, and the
continued self-boasting by this local Chapter, while we need to do the
cleaning up.
you know … I am editing Morocco, that's more relaxing. hopefully no
YouthMappers there.
ciao,
Mario
On 02/12/2020 15:52, Rory Nealon wrote:
Hi Mario,
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I will try and contact
the chapter and get an answer for you. The last I heard was that
they had begun to validate the tasks they had created.
Cheers,
Rory
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 4:53 PM Mario Frasca <ma...@anche.no
<mailto:ma...@anche.no>> wrote:
Dear Rory,
let me insist, I wish to have an estimate of how long we
should wait,
for the YMUP to review their edits?
as you have read from his complaint to YMI, Markusz assumes
something
like "at the end of the day", even if he wrote the complaint 4
days
after the edit — which he fixed himself.
maybe too strict myself, because I would say "the next day",
which could
be "the next available day".
in particular since this looks like episodic edits, not
ongoing activities.
so, what is the time we should allow before concluding they
abandoned
the location?
a week? (slow, but could fit in a low activity group)
a month? (very slow, one forgets what they were doing)
a year? (ah? next group, please?)
best regards, Mario Frasca
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