I was honored to have Richard Feynman as a professor in collage at Caltech and actually hand-grade a paper of mine which sits collecting mold in my basement. Oh how smart I thought I was then ... but he had patience and kindness and actually tried to help me focus my ideas. What a rare and amazing man. I found him one of the few "hi-faluten" academics who was not entirely full of himself. He always questioned reality. But as Jim wrote, I am confused what you are talking about ? What kind of science are you asking for that isnt being done ? Who should do it ? Who will pay for it ? And sorry I didn't read all your links but where did "Gods Will" come from ? I have never read God publish an article on XQuery. I am totally confused (and also don't care about being politically correct. Feynman was honorable in refusing the nobel prize reward ).
Now for a blatant promotion ... Have 5 minutes to contribute to the "Science" of XML and JSON Processing in Browsers ? Do you want to help eliminate wives tales and FUD and replace it with scientific repeatable experiment and data ? Want to help the next generation of not-yet-brainwashed software developers have real data to base their decisions ? Just go here on as many devices as you have patience for. The results will be published in either peer-reviewed publication or my own blog ... whichever accepts me. http://speedtest.xmlsh.org ---------------------------------------- David A. Lee [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://www.xmlsh.org From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of daniela florescu Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 8:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [xquery-talk] why do you care what other people think ? I have to apologize on this mailing list first for completely scaring one of potential XQuery's customers a couple of days back. (he never answered back... oups... I will always wonder if he solved his problem...) Sorry. This was not my intent. But in my defense, maybe it is not that bad. Maybe it is a bigger lesson in this tense discussion. Maybe such tense discussions are necessary. In my defense, unfortunately the first book my father gave me to read just after I learned reading was this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Do_You_Care_What_Other_People_Think%3F (...and apparently I never recovered, and I have no hope of developing a politically correct character in science. Oups ! But I wish ALL kids in the world read this as their first fairy tale book as they grow up .... I think this would make the world a MUCH happier place ..:-) ==== As the result of this (good/bad!?) education I received, the words "God's will" in general make me uncomfortable. But HECK, when "God's will" is in the same sentence with "XQuery query optimization", hell. It does FREAK ME OUT. Maybe it is time to do something. Is there ANYTHING we can do to turn this community into some scientifically driven community (... and not driven by fake "gods" because you know them first hand and you had a beer with them, or because they write longer essays) ? This is not how science works. If anything, this community will be fundamental in a major revolution that is happening now. Data Science, Open Data Initiative, to name a few of this new "keywords". Just read here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/05/09/obama-administration-releases-historic-open-data-rules-enhance-governmen or here http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/education/edlife/universities-offer-courses-in-a-hot-new-field-data-science.html?_r=2&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer66834&; (hey, "data scientist is the sexiest job of the 21 century"... how cool is that :?)_ ====== Very likely the data will flow in this new data-centric world in either JSON or XML. Hence, whoever will need the data, will need to process it, and hence will need to know what this community knows. But if we want to be taken seriously, we need to reframe this community on a new basis. A more scientific one. Best regards, Dana
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