This is what I did on my N86.
Most of the time it prpre-selected  my wireless LAN.
Very occasionally it tried to connect through t Mobile but it seems to have
got the point now and is  now pretty much offering LAN as the default all
the time now.

Regards

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of tariq
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2010 15:40
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem.

if you change the settings to always ask you will be asked which connection 
you wish to use each time you wish to connect.  Only way round it I reckon. 
This way you can connect to your wireless lan or alternative connection.
Tariq
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernard Hemmings" <li...@bhemmings.net>
To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem.


> Hi Stephen even if you remove the sim and format the phone the telstra 
> destinations stay in place.  The only way they can be removed is via a 
> text message sent by them then you read back the password then they can 
> remove them.  I assumed when I got the replacement phone there would be no

> destinations or no defined access points.  I even installed talks with out

> the sim card in the phone and while in ten minute mode checked this.  I 
> then formatted the phone hoping to delete the telstra settings but they 
> were still there.  Had the access points and destinations not been present

> on this replaced handset I was going to create them manually and had noted

> what was to go in each field from the last handset.  This is why I asked 
> the techs at nokia service if they could delete the destinations after 
> they had removed all the access points this is when they told me they can 
> not remove them.
>
> Bernard Hemmings
> email: bern...@bhemmings.net
> Skype: Bernard Hemmings
> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
> Home: 61-02-95841280
> Mobile: 61-0412177799
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgig...@gmail.com>
> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem.
>
>
>> Bernard
>>
>> Just a thought! If you get a new handset or you try a format! Leave the 
>> Sim card out in either case. This away when the phone comes up initially 
>> after the format with no sim in it or it is a brand new phone with no sim

>> in it. Then install Talks with no Sim in it. Then try setting up your 
>> WiFi access point and see if it works with no Sim ever being in the 
>> phone. This away it is hoped that there will be no access point in the 
>> phone at all when starting out.
>>
>> If this works with Talks with no sim ever being in the phone! Then put 
>> the sim in the phone and power it up. When you get the messages from 
>> telstra Cancel out of them with SoftKey2, do not accept them. Then go 
>> into your inbox on the phone and delete the messages! Do not open them.
>>
>> Now try again with using your access point with Talks and see what 
>> happens.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>
>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bernard Hemmings" <li...@bhemmings.net>
>> To: "talks" <talks@talksusers.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:13 AM
>> Subject: [Talks] a major problem.
>>
>>
>>> Well lists after nokia replaced the wifi chip in my e72 it still would 
>>> not connect to the web via wireless networks there networks as well as 
>>> mine. they gave me a replacement handset but unfortunately not a new one

>>> but a phone that was owned before by another telstra user.  Guess what 
>>> it has the same problem.
>>> You see telstra send 4 destinations containing 3 access points. 
>>> interestingly 2 of the destinations have the same name
>>> "internet"
>>> These protected destinations can not be removed not even by a hard 
>>> reset. I believe either the two destinations having the same name or the

>>> fact they can not be deleted cause the format process to abort when the 
>>> data can't be deleted.  After all formats never go round a problem 
>>> unless a skip process is built in.  with my old e72  if the wlan wizard 
>>> was open it would connect to sites addresses but this would not permit 
>>> built in apps that access their own servers to work.
>>> With this handset I tried the way they used but still no go the invalid 
>>> server name keeps coming up.  The status bar indicates it's connected to

>>> the router and the lan works perfectly when I use the telexy software or

>>> the home media feature.
>>> I think Nokia this week when I go back to the service centre will have a

>>> go at blaming talks.  The handsets they tried last week would connect 
>>> to the web via wifi networks and they will point out that talks was not 
>>> installed.  The telstra protected destinations  were on this handset 
>>> when I got it there was no sticker on the screen and it did not have 
>>> that new mobile phone smell they all have when you take them from their 
>>> box.  If you try and alter these protected destinations the error unable

>>> to edit protected settings comes up.  you can open the destinations and 
>>> delete the access points.  The nokia techs told me they can't delete the

>>> destinations either which I find a little difficult to believe, but if 
>>> this is the case then it's no wonder the format or hard reset does not 
>>> complete.  As other e72 owners are using the lates firmware  with out 
>>> this problem that is obviously not the cause.  If you format the handset

>>> with these telstra destinations in place you get a beep after 20 seconds

>>> or so and the next time you power up the phone I think it has another go

>>> at formatting because you don't hear the power up music and 30 seconds 
>>> after reboot you hear a beep.  My replacement handset did this the first

>>> time I powered it up.
>>> I don't know if other providers lock their destination in this way. 
>>> However it looks as if I may have discovered a problem in that 
>>> handsets running the same symian version as the e72 and their owners use

>>> telstra if a hard reset is performed the phone will not be able to use 
>>> the internet via their wireless networks.  Keep in mind nokia techs 
>>> tried to use the net on 3 different WLANS with my e72 and they got the 
>>> same error as I do at home.
>>> I've tried both factory reset and hard reset which won't make the 
>>> problem go away.  As I am sick of visiting the nokia service centre I'm 
>>> hoping someone on the list who know more about phone than I do can 
>>> suggest something.  Hopefully I am wrong re the telstra protected 
>>> destinations. Currently every web address I enter including
>>> http://www.blindsea.com
>>> returns the error invalid server name.  When using the carrier's access 
>>> point  it works perfectly.
>>> Now a more synical person than myself would say it's Telstra trying to 
>>> make users use their data services, I'm not claiming this yet but I do 
>>> wonder how many others have run in to the problem but are to busy to 
>>> spend days at their local nokia service centre and just use telstra's 
>>> data services and keep their usage to a minimum. all I have done is 
>>> install talks and set up my access point.  No other software has been 
>>> installed on this replacement handset.
>>>
>>> Bernard Hemmings
>>> email: bern...@bhemmings.net
>>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings
>>> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
>>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
>>> Home: 61-02-95841280
>>> Mobile: 61-0412177799
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