I would not agree with you there Stephen, any sighted person who takes up or
takes my phone(s) with Talks wants the sTalks removed immediately. It
irritates them and I actually believe Talks causes the phone, especially a
touch phone to react slower.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Giggar" <[email protected]>
To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] assistance celling nokia e7
Alex
Symbian is going to be around for another 5 years at least. Nokia plans on
producing another 150 million phones. They also plan on having another 10
Symbian models out by next summer this number counts the 600, 700 and 701
which leaves another 7 models to still be announced.
For the other phone, I can't really get into that on this list being it
isn't the correct topic for the list. <smile> But what I can say is each
platform has it own advantages and disadvantages. What you may think of as a
plus others may see it as a minus.
I will agree the Talks should provide some other ways of interacting with
the touch screen like the other screen reader has for Symbian. However in
saying that, I can say Talks does allow a sighted person to pick up a Talks
enabled phone and a sighted person can use it without having to do anything
with the screen reader and a sighded person doesn't have to figure anything
out in order to use the phone with Talks on it.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.
Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
----- Original Message -----
From: "alex wallis" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] assistance celling nokia e7
Hi list.
sorry for late reply, but I get my talks e mails as digests, so don't
see the messages til the digest turns up.
now, first off thanks for the response to my thread, and the list
recommendations.
second, I have several reasons for selling the e7,
firstly, I just couldn't get along with its touch interface, just
sliding my finger round the screen hunting for items I didn't find it
very easy, the way the iPhone does things seems much more efficient to me.
second, I couldn't figure out at all dialing numbers on a call to
interact with a phone menu system, I tried but every time you start a
call you first of all have to bring up the virtual keypad so you waste
time hunting for the button to do that, they really should make it
display on screen during a call automatically, or give that option in
the settings.
my third reason for selling the phone, is the qwerty keyboard, the keys
are nicely shaped, but I find them quite stiff, and in the case of the
home row featuring the f and j, really squashed up against the bottom of
the touch screen, making it very easy to trigger opening of menus and
settings. though it has to be said when using mobile speak accidentally
touching bits of the screen and doing things I didn't want wasn't a
problem, due to the way mobile speak takes over the screen, it did help
with accessibility, but the physical way the home row is squashed up
didn't make for comfortable or fast typing.
the fourth reason for selling the phone though, is more fundamental,
technology is changing, and changing rapidly, to put it totally bluntly,
I don't see talks having a long term future, because nokia is moving to
windows phone 7, which is currently inaccessible, so in a few years,
phones will no longer run symbian, and who knows if or when windows
phone 7 will be accessible, yes microsoft have said it will be, but who
knows to what extent. Also, windows mobile the other OS that talks runs
on is now basically no longer under development in favour of windows
phone 7.
the way I see it, is talks has to adapt to support windows phone 7, if
it is made accessible.
more importantly, it needs to be adapted to work on android devices,
which at the moment it is true are usably accessible, but at the moment
google do need to do a lot on there side to improve things.
so this leads in to my fifth reason, based on the research I have done,
and my views about the future viability of talks and symbian, I think
for the moment the iPhone offers better accessibility than talks on a
symbian device, I think with touch screens like it or not, adaptation is
needed to make navigating the screen easier, and the iPhone has
accessibility built into its core with voice over.
I also think there are far more apps out there for iPhone than symbian
3, anna or fifth edition, and the nice thing with apple is that they try
to force developers to make apps voice over accessible which is not the
case with talks.
I would much rather have an android phone due to the level of
customisation, but I think google just isn't taking accessibility
seriously enough for me to even consider adopting it, I want access to
the native apps on the phone rather than a shell where I am in a taylor
made accessible application that is not what my sighted peers use.
at least with iPhone I will be on a level playing field.
as for how much I am selling the e7 for, I was looking for around £350,
but am very happy to discuss terms with anyone who is interested, and I
am very negociable, so just try me if you are interested, make an offer.
I live in the UK.
Thanks for reading,
Alex.
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