Oh Yes Eleanor, interesting point you mention, is it possible to spellcheck a text or am I talking total rubbish.
Maurice. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 15 November 2011 11:23 To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Various E6 questions. Maurice *smile*, I text with my left index finger while supporting the phone with my right hand. I know I am fast but I thought that was acceptable, when sighted people see me text they are amazed at my speed. I ask: 'Can't you text that fast?' and they say 'No'! It is a spacial awareness thing. Of course when I first saw a qwerty keyboard on a phone, I was all over the place, trying to text with both hands *smile* with the phone on my knee but how practical is that when I am walking around the park?! Then I tried a few fingers on the left hand and asked people how they managed when texting, sighted people I mean. They said they used their thumb so I decided to give it a go. No way, culd not and eventually settled for the left index. I am a Braille reader and I wonder if that helps with the sensativity in the left index finger, after all that would have been my dominant reading finger, the right hand as I was taught when learning Braille was more the guiding hand. In fact I make less mistakes with the qwerty than the numeric pad. Remember I am a proficient typist too though a poor speller, hence my mistakes at times and when sending an e-mail I am not inclined to run a spell check through. Now I have a complete visual memory or mental memory of the layout of a qwerty also. How did I do it then? I had to set aside maybe 10 minutes a day for about a week and would go in to a blank message and off I would go, in order to gain speed and confidence I just took off and did not concentrate on accuracy. This then gave me rhythm and speed, then I began to slow down a little in favour of accuracy. I would think it took me about 3 days to get profecient. After that sending messages, first a few words, then a sentence and eventually a few sentences. With e-mail, I took a while but I answer 90% of my e-mails now on the go! Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Press" <[email protected]> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] Various E6 questions. > Eleanor, I couldn't agree more. > That's why I still like my N86. > > May I ask what might be considered a strange question regarding Texting > on the E6. > For some reason only known to myself, I text with the Index finger of > my > lefthand whilst holding the phone with my right. > Now when I was in my phone shop yesterday sorting out the Ovi screen that > kept coming up when turning the phone on, I noted with much frustration > that the person who was doing this for me was using the Qwerty keyboard > at > an amazing rate. > So, I wonder if you could just let me know whether you text with either > one finger or a combination of fingers. > I realise that at the end of the day this is a purely individual thing but > am interested to try new techniques and as you say, you are a fast > texter > on the E6. > > Maurice. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: 15 November 2011 10:30 > To: Talks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Talks] Various E6 questions. > > OK Maurice, glad you were getting on good with Podcasts. You will have > read > > on the list today that I only cracked that one last night thanks to Denise > and Allan. You will soon be an expert too now on the E6 and will be able > to > > start advising *smile*. As for your effeciency with text messaging on the > E6, like ytou make the analagy with a new car. With the new car, it is > unfamiliar at first but then you begin to do everything automatically. I > am > > very fast at texting on the E6 but then I have had practice with the E71 > and > > E72 which are phones you have not used. I actually wanted to move away > from > > the numerica keypad and the predictive text as I can find that a little > irritating at times though exceptionally fast when all is going well. The > camera is excellent on the E6 so maybe you should be making enquiries of > those who sell the scanning software you mention to see if anyone has > tried > it out on the E6, or even better still you could always download a demo of > each and let us know how things go. You will have read where Stephen > Gigger, a user of the N95 is a great believer in older technology that > works > > and I could not agree more with Stephen as I too am the proud user of an > N95 > > Standard with excellent speakers, keys clearly defined etc!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maurice Press" <[email protected]> > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 9:30 AM > Subject: Re: [Talks] Various E6 questions. > > >> Hi Eleanor. >> Now there's a question. >> For me, the N86 is like a reliable car that never or hardly breaks down >> and >> can do all the basic functions. >> The E6 is to me like a suped up model that can do all the older cars >> can >> do but with a lot of added extras and a lot faster. >> >> Now let me put it in a different way if that's alright. >> >> My Nokia N86 is a reliable phone and accept for having to replace the >> battery yesterday, has never broken down in the couple of years I've had >> it. >> It does all that it says on the tin: >> Makes and receives Calls, Sends emails, navigates the web, takes pictures >> ETC. >> Now sending texts for me are really fast on the N86 becausew of it's >> usual >> phone keypad. >> >> However, I felt it was time to move onwards and upwards to using >> touchscreen technology as I like to keep up with what's around and don't >> like being left behind. >> So, I tried various other phones, some Nokia and others not. >> I tried the Nokia E7 but couldn't get on with it's shape or the slide out >> Qwerty keyboard. >> I tried the Nokia N8 but found my ttexting was extremely eratic and took >> me >> too long. >> So, when I found out about the E6, I was very excited. >> For me the E6 is a combination of the N86 and Touch Screen technology. >> The phone as you know has a navigation key which is just like the N86 as >> well as buttons to send and answer calls as well as other functions. >> Also, I find the web access on the E6 much better and sites such as >> youtube >> work really well playing music and downloading podcasts. This I just >> can't >> do on my N86. >> So, now I am in a bit of a quandary. >> Do I go back to my Old Faithful Reliable N86 and text fast but do >> without >> the latest technology, or, do I bite the bullet and stick to my E6 >> which I really like but on which my texting is slower. >> >> For the moment I'm going to stay with the E6. >> >> Any help? >> >> Maurice Press. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On >> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >> Sent: 14 November 2011 20:02 >> To: Talks Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Various E6 questions. >> >> What advantages does the E6 have over the N86 Maurice? >> >> Eleanor >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Maurice Press" <[email protected]> >> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Various E6 questions. >> >> >>> Hi Eleanor, >>> Thanks so much for both this email and the text. >>> I do sometimes log on over the weekend but try to get away from my PC >>> and >>> work during the Weekend. >>> >>> Thanks for all your help and assistance here. >>> I have done all you've suggested and it works. >>> >>> I will get a new battery for my N86 but feel that if I now concentrate >>> on >>> my >>> E6 as my first phone my texting will become much quicker and the phone >>> does >>> have a lot of advantages over the N86. >>> >>> Thanks again. >>> >>> Maurice. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >>> Sent: 12 November 2011 11:49 >>> To: Talks Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Various E6 questions. >>> >>> Well, my E6 is working Brilliantly. >>> My N86 actually broke down due to battery dying so I "had" to use the >>> E6 >>> as my number 1 phone. I guess that's the best way. >>> >>> Answer >>> I disagree with you Morris. Purchase a new battery for your N8. >>> >>> Mobilefun Phone Accessories >>> >>> 08442 495060 >>> www.mobilefun.co.uk >>> >>> >>> 1. I have put some shortcuts on my home screen - Sound Recorder, >>> Camera, Messaging and BBC website. >>> Now when I Run my finger over the screen all the icons say when I come >>> to >>> them are "Icon" "Icon". >>> Is there a way of labelling them so they actually say what they are? >>> >>> Answer >>> >>> The object viewer. First when you decide you want to label icons you'll >>> probably want to turn on the graphics identifier first so you know what >>> icon >>> >>> to look for in the object viewer. To turn on graphics do talks lonf >>> press >>> of >>> >>> the number 4. Then as you touch the screen or arrow over icons if they >>> aren't labeled with a name it will read the icon number which is >>> composed >>> of >>> >>> numbers and letters. There are 8 characters in an icon number. >>> Get to the object viewer by doing talks key followed by long pressing >>> the >>> center select button. It pops up with the screen that has both labeled >>> and >>> unlabeled icons on it. Arrow down through the list till you find the >>> icon >>> number of the one you want to label. press select on it. it brings up >>> another little screen with text if there's text there and give the >>> location >>> on the screen and says role which is where you'd select if you want to >>> try >>> and change the role an object has. If not just keep arrowing down. >>> You'll >>> get to the icon again. press select and it takes you to the user >>> dictionary. >>> >>> The icon number is in the existing field. Arrow down one and you get to >>> the >>> replacement field. Type in what you want the icon to say. Then arrow >>> down >>> and exit if you want the label to be global or arrow to the right if you >>> want it to be labeled in that program only. >>> I think you only want it to be in that programme so you will want home >>> screen and not global,. Then touch soft key one and save it. When >>> you've >>> labeled what you want then touch the left soft key and it will return >>> you >>> to >>> >>> the home screen.YOu turn off the graphics viewer by pressing talks long >>> umber 4 again. >>> >>> 2. I would like to make either Key 2 or the "Email" part of the key a >>> shortcut to messaging. I have looked at the Shortcut keys but can't >>> work >>> out how to do this. Can anyone explain for me please. >>> >>> Answer >>> On the long keys on either side of the arrow keys there are two buttons >>> top >>> and bottom next to the left and right arrow key. >>> On the left the top is menu. You can't change this one. It is a waste >>> since >>> >>> soft key two takes you to the menu as well. under menu is the calendar >>> one-touch key. you can have two shortcuts. A short press and long >>> press. >>> to >>> >>> the right of the right arrow there are two one-touch keys up an lower. >>> Upper >>> >>> is the contact key under it is email or messaging key. These can each >>> have >>> two shortcuts assigned- short press and long press. You find them under >>> tools settings, phone, one-touch keys. >>> >>> Settings 9 of 12. >>> Phone 3 of 7 >>> one touch keys which is 9 of 11. >>> Now you are put in a list where there are just 3 items, namely, calandar >>> key, contacts key and messaging key. >>> Select messaging key as that is the one you asked about. >>> You now have another screen. The first option is short press messaging. >>> If >>> you want to alter this and have something else there in the short press >>> instead of messaging then select on this. You will now be in a long >>> list >>> and you can choose from this. On my phone I have then 60 options to >>> choose >>> from. It is possible to arrow down through all these 60 options. >>> Make your selection and exit by pressing soft key 2 on the screen, >>> bottom >>> right *smile*. Re[eat this for the long press of the messaging key. >>> >>> You can add other shortcuts to the home screen by editing the home >>> screen >>> under the wigit catelogue. >>> >>> 3. When writing a text, how can I get the symbols up especially >>> apostrophe and Quotes. >>> >>> Answer >>> A single quote is the Function Key, bottom right followed by the letter >>> l. >>> Talks does not say single quote but if you write it and backspace Talks >>> will >>> >>> say quote. >>> To bring up a list of punctuation and symbols you have to press the Cha >>> key. >>> >>> This key is obtained by pressing the Talks key twice. In Talks Training >>> Mode when you first press this key directly to the left of the spacebar >>> Talks announces Talks and then if you press it again in Training Mode >>> Talks >>> says Cha. Now out of training Mode, when you hit this key twice, the >>> 2nd >>> time you hit it, it will not say Ch but it will bring up the symbols. >>> Arrow >>> >>> right across the top row and then arrow down to the next row etc. When >>> you >>> come across the symbol you want then select it using the select key. If >>> you >>> >>> press soft key 2 on the screen you then get a list of emoticons but >>> Talks >>> does not recognise these so do not bother with them but do not be like >>> me >>> and press soft key 2 on the screen to exit the characters screen as this >>> is >>> not the way out. The only Exit I have found is on selecting the >>> character >>> using the select that lies in the centre of all the arrow keys. If I >>> have >>> made a mistake or do not want a particular key, I still select and get >>> back >>> out and then use the backspace to remove it. Someone else can chip in >>> on >>> this one. >>> >>> :4. Is it p possible without sight to move items up the menu. >>> >>> Answer >>> I do not think so, Actually I have some useful vision and have tried >>> movjing >>> >>> them but with no success. I had an N97 Mini and this was possible >>> before. >>> Think you had the N97 for a short time and ditto. 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