Thanks a lot.
Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
--- Original message ---
Subject: Re: [Talks] Two questions about getting a new cell phone
Date: 6/21/2012 7:12:38 PM
Fron: Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]>
To: Talks Mailing List <[email protected]>

> The iPhone list I"m on is at
> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
>
> I don't know any other way to join this list other than by
> going to it's
> web site, with a Google Groups ID, and requesting
> membership. It takes a
> few days to get on, and it's a very high traffic list.
>
> There's also the accessible phones list, which you can
> subscribe to by
> sending a message to
> [email protected]. This list
> has a lot less traffic on it, and it handles questions on
> the iPhone,
> Android phones as well as Symbian and other  accessible
> cell phones.
>
> On 21/06/12 12:43, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy wrote:
> > Thanks. Your answer was very useful and makes me more
> confident in using one. Does anyone know the address of any
> mailing lists for VoiceOver?
> > Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> > --- Original message ---
> > Subject: Re: [Talks] Two questions about getting a new
> cell phone
> > Date: 6/21/2012 6:21:06 PM
> > Fron: Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]>
> > To: Talks Mailing List <[email protected]>
> >
> >> Yeh, blind people have used the iPhone, which only has a
>
> >> touch screen,
> >> as well as touch screen only phones with Android and
> >> Symbian.
> >>
> >> I myself now have an iPhone, and it's definitely usable
> by
> >> a totally
> >> blind person. You're running VoiceOver and you can
> navigate
> >> each screen
> >> by swiping or just moving your finger around on the
> screen.
> >> VoiceOver
> >> tells you what object has the focus without activating
> it.
> >> You activate
> >> an object by double tapping on the screen.
> >>
> >> There are a few different typing options, but you're
> >> basically using a
> >> on screen keyboard. I find it a bit similar to using a
> tiny
> >> little
> >> querty keyboard. You don't have the tactile feel of the
> >> keyboard, but
> >> you learn roughly where the keys are on the on screen
> >> keyboard and
> >> VoiceOver let's you know what key you're on. You can
> also
> >> attach a
> >> bluetooth keyboard if you want.
> >>
> >> There are a lot of other gestures to use on the iPhone,
> and
> >> there's a
> >> lot of good resources on the web and via mailing lists
> to
> >> learn about
> >> how to use the iPhone and which apps are accessible with
>
> >> VoiceOver. You
> >> could also stop by an Apple store, or one of the
> carriers
> >> that carries
> >> the iPhone, and play with it for a while. It does take
> some
> >> getting used
> >> to though, so you may want to spend more than a few
> minutes
> >> with it in
> >> the store before you decide if it's right for you or
> not.
> >>
> >> My only experience with a touch screen phone is the
> iPhone.
> >> Others can
> >> probably weigh in on their experiences with other touch
> >> screen phones.
> >> Since this is broader than just Talks, you may also want
> to
> >> take this
> >> question over to the accessible phones list.
> >>
> >> On 21/06/12 11:02, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy wrote:
> >>> I got my Nokia E52 back from repares and it turned out
> >> that the phone was coroded. I'm considering getting a
> new
> >> phone and I have some questions about this.
> >>>
> >>> 1. What phones are out there still that have a keypad,
> >> Symbian and wireless capabilities?
> >>>
> >>> 2. I might get an Iphone. Has anyone with absolutely no
>
> >> sight used this or other phones with touchscreens
> >> succesfully? How do you do this?
> >>>
> >>> I know that someone asked similar questions a few weeks
>
> >> ago, but I didn't read those posts because I didn't need
>
> >> to. Because of that, I really appreciate your patience
> and
> >> your answers.
> >>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> Christopher (CJ)
> >> chaltain at Gmail
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