As much as I respect your decision, Shahrukh, I am still a bit sad about it. I had extremely valued through all the years that Tango-L was free of Tango-A announcements. In the German-tango list 'tango-de' everything goes into one list ... and I always prefered the Tango-L and -A difference. Anyway: thanks for keeping the list(s) alive! Very much appreciated! Saludos! Christian
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The difference between theory and practice is greater in practice than in theory... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Mai 2015 um 19:01 Uhr > Von: "Shahrukh Merchant" <shahr...@shahrukhmerchant.com> > An: tango-a@mit.edu > Cc: tang...@mit.edu > Betreff: [Tango-L] ADMIN: Tango-A posts should now be made to Tango-L > > Effective immediately, please make all future posts on Tango event > announcements to Tango-L instead of Tango-A. > > Tango-A members who are not subscribed to Tango-L (the majority are) > will need to subscribe manually to Tango-L if they wish to continue > receiving Tango-A posts. They will NOT automatically be added on > Tango-L! See http://tango-l.com/#Subscribe for instructions on > subscribing, but in brief, you can either: > - Go to http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-L and fill in your > information there (recommended method), or > - Send an email to tango-l-requ...@mit.edu with the word SUBSCRIBE in > the subject filed and/or body (alternative method). > > Tango-A will be discontinued for posting effective 1 June 2015 (in a > couple of days). Essentially, the idea is to merge Tango-A back with > Tango-L since there isn't enough volume on Tango-A to justify continuing > the list as a separate entity. > > This message is being copied to the Tango-L list so that those on that > list know to expect Tango-A posts there. > > The convention on the subject prefix should be retained. This will be a > good way of instantly identifying Tango event announcements (vs. Tango > discussion). As a reminder, the subject prefix, to be used for > geographically oriented event announcements, or other commercial posts > (e.g., sale of Tango shoes or books), are: > > SA: South America > NA-E: North America (Eastern) > NA-C: North America (Central) > NA-W: North America (Western) > EU-W: Europe (Western) > EU-E: Europe (Eastern) > AASP: Asia, Africa, South Pacific/Oceania (basically "rest of world") > MISC: For commercial posts that don't have a particular geography > > Remember that this applies to where the even it being HELD, and only ONE > should be used. In the past, this could affect the distribution of the > post (people had the option of subscribing to certain "topics") but now > this is strictly a convention and visual aid, and will not affect the > distribution in any way (all subscribers will get all posts). > > Q&A > --- > Q. What will happen to the membership list? > > A. The list will be deleted from the MIT servers in due course (in a few > days I expect, once I tell them to go ahead and do so). I will keep a > personal copy of this list, but I don't expect to use it. > > Q. Can I get a copy of the membership list? > > A. No, it and is not for distribution or sale. However, if you are a > Tango organizer, or wish to maintain your own Tango event list (or are > looking for a lost tango friend who you suspect is on Tango-A, etc.), > you are free to post to Tango-A (not to Tango-L in this case) in the > next couple of days (before it is closed to postings) soliciting members > who wish to add themselves to your private list to email you privately > with a request to do so (or via whatever other automatic subscription > mechanism you may have). Or if you have some other reason for contacting > everyone on the Tango-A list, go ahead and send an email (again just to > Tango-A in this case, not Tango-L) in the next day or so before the list > is closed--don't worry too much about the posting rules and such. > > Q. What about the archives? > > A. Yes, there are archives which will be maintained indefinitely. There > will be a separate post on this shortly. I have recently arranged two > archival sites for all previous Tango-A posts, and in fact was waiting > for that to complete before closing Tango-A (merging it back with Tango-L). > > Q. So I can make all my Tango-A posts on Tango-L now? Which posting > rules apply--the Tango-L ones or the Tango-A ones? > > A. Yes, you may continue to make your Tango-A posts as before; just send > them to tang...@mit.edu instead. Use the Tango-A posting rules (though > really, inappropriate posts on Tango-A have been very rare and > essentially a non-issue, so you don't need to go rushing over to reread > the rules). > > Q. There was talk about Tango-L being shut down too. Does this mean > Tango-L is not going to be closed? > > A. No it doesn't ... Just that it doesn't make sense for both to be > around given the low volume on both lists, and it's more logical to > merge Tango-A into Tango-L rather than the other way around. Tango-L is > still "on probation" in terms of the value of keeping it around, but for > now I'm adopting a "wait and see" attitude on it. > > Q. I can't remember if I'm on Tango-L. Can't you just check for us and > merge the lists? > > A. I could, but (a) most people who are on one are on the other anyway > (b) this filters out those who can't be bothered to subscribe > (considering it takes perhaps 20 seconds) as they probably aren't that > interested in being on the list anyway. At any rate, if you're on > Tango-L, you'd know it since you'd have received some emails in the last > day or two (there's been recent activity on that list). And if you > follow the instructions to subscribe to Tango-L and you're already on > the list, it will just tell you that. > > Q. What is all this Tango-A vs. Tango-L stuff anyway? I have no idea > what you are talking about. I'm on [Tango-L | Tango-A] and didn't even > know there was another list! > > A. See www.tango-L.com for a description of the two lists and their > relationship. > > Q. I have some other question about the lists. > > A. Check the FAQ at www.tango-L.com. If you don't find an answer, send > an email to tango-l-ow...@mit.edu. If it's a question of widespread > interest, I'll post the reply to the list. > > Shahrukh Merchant > Tango-L and Tango-A administrator > tango-l-ow...@mit.edu > _______________________________________________ > Tango-L mailing list > tang...@mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l >