Hmmm.. The embrace in tango can be variable or not. In the Apilado style, it is not variable at all. The dancers are connected at the chest and and the woman's left arm is draped over the man's shoulder. Their other arm is held loosely and the hand connection is also without tension or energy. I have experienced this first hand from such Apilado teachers as Susana Miller (I dance with her every time I see her at a milonga). I've also danced with other women who teach and dance that style exclusively and they all dance that way.

Another thing I've noticed is that some women who've learned that style tend to lean or even hang on the man. I don't know why this happens because the teachers (such as Susana Miller) quit teaching that stuff years ago. A close embrace is what all tango dancing requires. One can relax the embrace and make it variable in order to dance some figures. With skilled partners I find it very easy to dance a good variety of movements while maintaining a very close embrace. However, if the women hang on me or lean on me, the dance becomes quite limited.

Also, I enjoy dancing with partners who can dance more interesting steps or moves. Some movements require a lot more flexibility in the embrace as it's impossible to perform them if the dancers are glued at the chest. For instance, any turn requiring more than 3 steps to either direction is much easier to perform if the embrace is loosened. Centrifugal force is very much in evidence for many tango steps. This requires that the dancers actually lean away from each other. Try sometimes taking hands with another person and turning circles around one another. You'll see how easy it is if you lean away from each other. If you lean towards each other, it's impossible to do.

Things like sacadas, barridas, ganchos and boleos are movements that originate from places in the turn (molinete, giro, etc.). All these moves are generated from changes of direction in the turn. All these movements are more easily performed with a relaxed, open embrace. Before I get flamed, let me hasten to ad that small boleos, sacadas and even displacements can be successfully done in close embrace (I do them all the time). However, no gancho, barrida or back sacada can be done during a close, apilado position.

Obviously, some people enjoy dancing a variety of dance moves and steps and enjoy the freedom of interpreting the music with more variety. OTOH, some people hate anything that is not their style of dance. Usually, those who can, enjoy dancing a variety of styles. Even some people who are not so skilled enjoy trying out fancy moves they see others do. Unfortunately, when unskilled dancers attempt more advanced moves, they usually look less than elegant and can interfere with other dancers on the floor. Still, this is no reason to rail against different styles of tango or to question their authenticity, validiity, etc. A variable embrace is indeed a very fine thing to use if needed. A close embrace is also just fine and quite pleasant to use.

Enjoy your own dance!!

Manuel



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From: steve pastor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Tango-L] variable embrace
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:44:56 -0700 (PDT)

I have come to believe that, since the term "close embrace" can mean
  several different things, it leads to a lot of confusion.
  The more erect you and your partner are when you are in your embrace,
  the closer your feet are together. The more forward "lean" there is to
  both of your postures, the more distance there is between your feet,
  plenty enough for the woman to bring her unweighted foot across and
  in front of herself.
Note, too, that when the two upper bodies are parallel to each other, it is possible, by rotating the upper body/bodies appropriately, and changing the amount of forward pressure, for the woman to feel the desire to let her leg
  go in the indicated direction, across the front of her body.
  My experience tells me, though, that the actual physical connection that
  I get from most partners is so weak (ie close embrace means standing
really close to your partner) that the woman can't feel this sort of lead. Then, too, there is the challenge of being able to rotate the torso more or less independently of the hips, and vice versa, so that the leg can move freely
  in the direction of the woman's new balance point...
It takes both partners being on the same page to make this work. No opening
  of the embrace is required.
  On the other hand, if you want to open the embrace, go right ahead.





Carol Shepherd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  In terms of following experience, close embrace to me pretty much means
variable embrace. I was in a class at CITA with Naveira and he was
coming around to each of the pairs and corrected my partner of the
moment, who was a pretty new beginner. We were dancing more-or-less
close embrace (having learned as a beginner in open embrace it was
extremely close embrace to me) and my partner was trying to dance me
into a space that my body simply couldn't occupy, for front ochos and
for giro. Naveira told him "you have to change and make the space for
the woman, and then you change and go back." Obviously ochos and giros
can be made bigger and smaller (hence the stage and salon style
discussions) but at some point the space inside of the right arm for a
front ocho is either big enough for the follow, or it's not. Depending
on the amount of COD moves the lead chooses to lead, there will be a lot
of transitions in the embrace. I applaud the men with whom I have
danced who have made this a seamless experience! :) The reality,
however, is that this adjustment is a pretty difficult challenge for
beginning dancers who lead, and it is not an issue in open embrace. I
am not "advocating" open embrace over close embrace...just acknowledging
that it is really important to teach leads the space transition for COD
dance vocabulary and it is a lot for a beginner to handle.

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