> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:19:19 
> -0400> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads> > Hey Steve,> 
> > If you can't answer the question, just say so. You sound like yet another 
> guy> who likes to talk-the-talk but can't walk-the-walk. Tango is full of 
> them' > > And thanks for reminding me what I wrote to Jeff - same thing hold 
> for you Steve.> > A Tango Man's motto should be - NEVER BLAME THE WOMAN. > > 
> Keith, HK
 
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 > On Sun Oct 14 7:33 , steve pastor sent:> > >Keith: > > If you seriously wish 
 > to engage in discussions with people in this> > forum, you might want to 
 > avoid replies such as this one, which you > > posted recently.> > > > "Of 
 > course, Jeff, I'm sure the reason couldn't possibly be your poor leading.> 
 > >Personally, I've never had a woman ... "automatically resolve into an 
 > ocho".> >If you want something different, Jeff, lead something different. 
 > And if you> >can't - don't blame the woman. > >> >Keith, HK"> >> > > >> >> 
 > >Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Can we be a little bit more specific 
 > here. Steve, if the girl can walk and> >do Ochos and Giros, just what are 
 > you leading that they don't know what to > >do? Especially after a couple of 
 > attempts. > >> >Keith, HK> >> >On Sat Oct 13 5:28 , steve pastor sent:> >> 
 > >> > >> "Why aren't they becoming more skilled?" Another answer to this is 
 > that> >> many women become visibly upset if you lead something and they 
 > don't> >> know what t!
 o do. After a try or two, it's best to leave it alone.> >> And, you know, 
mostly, the women don't ask for input, or even want to > >> discuss things 
after they've had lessons or found an adequate number> >> of partners they feel 
comfortable with. If something doesn't work, it is> >> surely the fact that the 
man didn't lead it well. Right?> >> But then, maybe that is because we don't 
have men who have been doing> >> this for decades. > >> If you want to learn, 
you take lessons from a "teacher". Right?> >> > >> >> 
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