I thought the original post on this thread was a joke. At least I hoped it was 
but as it has been responded to as if it was serious I feel compelled to reply. 
Tango is a dance built on trust (not to mention courtesy and respect), so how 
can someone trust you if you are touching them up. All the followers I know are 
serious dancers and would just walk off the floor immediately. So they should, 
because to my mind using a dance for cheap thrills is just sad, pathetic and if 
uninvited the lowest form of cowardice.

Now for something a little more positive and the real reason I am responding. 
In answer to Lois' point below, I can say that in the two weeks my wife and I 
were both in Argentina recently (with quite a lot of social dancing) we both 
had only courtesy and gentlemanly behaviour from Argentines we met. No doubt I 
did observe some loud mouth show offs and also some obvious 'old guy dancing 
with very young foreign girl who is dancing badly' behaviour, but lets face it, 
that can happen anywhere. All of the local guys I actually spoke to seemed 
genuinely pleased that a foreign dancer wanted to come and dance tango in 
Argentina and I found them in most cases to be quite modest and quietly spoken 
one on one. This pleasantly surprised me given their collective national 
stereotype.

Yes, at certain milongas there appeared to be a small minority of back tapping 
sleazy types, but I thought they were mostly pretty easy to pick and that is 
where the Cabaceo is good, the woman gets to choose who she dances with. So I 
am not sure if we were just extremely lucky, but I suspect we had two things 
going for us. Firstly a positive attitude (or at least a pigheaded 
determination to succeed in my case ;-))is critical as with all travel because 
obviously there is a lot of unusual stuff and misunderstandings to deal with. 
If you expect it to be like Australia, for instance, it can get very stressful 
very quickly and once you let it get to you the whole place can seem 
unfriendly. Secondly, being a good catholic boy with a fair bit of Spanish 
blood and family I probably have some insights into the value system and I 
think my wife who has spent a lot of time in Italy probably also saw a lot that 
was familiar. Its not Australia, Europe or the US, its different and you hav!
 e to accept that you are in their place playing by their rules.

Now I know quite a lot of westerners report bad experiences (including some 
people I really like and respect) so I know it can happen, but I just wanted to 
put down our good experience so that anyone contemplating a trip can see that 
it is not always bad. In fact, I know quite a few female dancers from Australia 
who just keep going back year after year so I think there can be a lot of good 
experiences as well as the bad ones.

Victor Bennetts

> [Tango-L] Franelear -- have you tried it?
>So I am wondering about another problem - some of the men I bring, or 
>>Americans or European men I talk to there, complain of rude behavior >by 
>Argentine men toward them.

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