It just so happens that I was in that same class, Jack, when Susana shocked me 
too with her statement about the "myth." But, when you look at her leading, she 
does it with her whole frame, of course, not only the arms (someone else 
mentioned that on this list), unless she is exaggerating to illustrate 
something. Also, I took quite a few private lessons with Ana Maria and I never 
ever heard her say to lead with arms (only).

On the other hand I followed a few milongueros in various classes to feel what 
their lead feels like and occasionally I did feel a strong hand lead - perhaps 
they felt that otherwise I would not get the lead, I don't know.

In my view, there may be some very exceptional cases of dancing chest-to-chest 
when some more action of arms may be a bit helpful, but in general it should 
not be necessary at all.

So, no big deal. Whatever works and is comfortable to both partners is fine 
with me. There is no Central Committee on tango, no?

...dubravko

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From: Jack Dylan <[email protected]>
To: Tango-L <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:20:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] improving discussion in our forum -- sugestions

Certainly not from Buenos Aires! I'm currently taking classes with Susanna 
Miller in Mlongueando 2009. Almost her first statement was that .... "the idea 
that milongueros lead from the chest is a myth - they use their hands and 
arms". For the last 2 days, after years of leading from the chest, I've been 
struggling to lead a lady's Back Ocho while keeping my chest perfectly still. 

I also take privates with Ana Maria Schapira. Same thing. She says to lead the 
Ocho Cortado, I need to use a strong inward pressure with my right forearm, 
otherwise the lady is likely to cross behind and not in front.

And please don't flame me and tell me thing EVERYTHING can be led from chest 
only. I also believed that, but I'm not about to argue with Susanna Miller or 
Ana Maria Schapira. 

Jack


> From: Myk Dowling <[email protected]>
> 
> And what on Earth is _wrong_ with using your arms to dance? Where did 
> this whole "no arms" schtick come from, and how has it become elevated 
> to such a high level of worthiness?  
>
> 


      


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