>I was at Gricel Thursday April 16. I'm surprised it took Deby one week to >respond if she was actually there April 16. I danced at Lo de Celia which >is also very crowded with navigation problems. At Gricel, I stayed on the >outside. Just about everytime I did a molinete, there was somebody >different behind me, which means that men were jumping in and out of the >line of dance. > > I never wrote there was a fight at Gricel. I said two Argentines ARGUED. > It didn't look good natured from the look of the partner of one of the > men. She look absolutely embarrassed. > > Wrong, Deby. I didn't come to your table and ask you to dance. I don't > know who went to your table, but it certainly wasn't me! I don't go to any > woman's table and ask her to dance. I exclusively used cabeceo my entire > stay. > > My ONLY comment about the Argentines was on their navigation skills and > nothing else. > > The Argentines thought I was Argentine until I told them I wasn't. They > spoke to me in Spanish and I told them in Spanish I was a NorthAmerican > and that Spanish > isn't my primary language. > > I wasn't afraid to go out of my barrio. I didn't want to go outside. > Experience has proven that when the women see me at milongas in the > barrio, they are more likely to accept my invitation. I don't see any > reason to go to a lot of milongas and be a stranger at each one. At my > last milonga, El Arranque, I danced eight tandas, which is a lot. I > danced two REPEAT tandas with two women. One of them waved to me when I > walked in to let me know she was there. > > Deby's attitude is similar to other people who didn't like my postings. > Instead of offering corrections, like Shakruh on a woman declining an > invitation, they just launch into ad hominen attacks in public and private > emails. > > And Deby, I didn't have any trouble connecting with the women who wanted > to connect with me. I've lost count because it doesn't matter. It's not a > competition. > > Michael > I danced Argentine Tango- - with the Argentines > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deby Novitz" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:19 PM > Subject: [Tango-L] Gricel > I was in Gricel the night Michael was there. It was crowded. This is a > milonga well attended by locals and by regulars. It is rare to see > people who normally do not come to this milonga. While some of us may > not come every week, we know each other. > > There is navigation on this floor. Perhaps at times it may not be the > best but it is there. This is Buenos Aires at its best. A tightly > packed floor of dancers with hardly any room to move. There are several > "lines of dance" and if you dance here regularly you know where to find > them. If you are new to Buenos Aires and our milongas, I am sure it > would seem like chaos. The center of the floor is for newbies. The > outside is for more experienced dancers, the rest dance in the middle. > When the floor is very crowded it sometimes seems impossible, but > somehow the dancers always seem to find their way. > There were no fights at Gricel. Sometimes men purposely bump into each > other > and fake a disgruntled attitude, They always smile and hug afterwards. > Even when they do bump into each other and there are "some faces" and > maybe an exchange of words there is never a "fight". > For the record, Michael actually came to my table and asked me to > dance. So much for his recognizing me and doing the cabaceo. He was > shocked when I turned him down. I don't accept dances at the > table from strangers. From my friends who know I want to dance with > them yes. > The one thing you do not have is that you do not understand the music, > the soul of tango. North Americans, generally > speaking are so concentrated on being the best technically they dance > without soul. > > Perhaps if Michael had come to Gricel and tried to enjoy himself instead > of judging us on his North American values, he would have had a better > time.
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