ron, i whole heartedly support your thoughts i am sure that ballroom dancers doing a tango waltz would not approve of a nuevo couple entering the floor to dance contra to the prevailling tendencies even though there is a loose connection via the use of the word tango. just as in a traditional milonga that couple would stand out like sore thumbs and upset the prevailing mood
it is a pity that so many nuevo dancers seem to have egos that have to be on display for all to see cheers tony On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:31 PM, RonTango <[email protected]> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Valerie Dark <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Tango-L] No Nuevo (as a style) - according to the Naveiras > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Alexis Cousein wrote: > > > The only way in which "styles" would really become mechanisms for > > > speciation would be forced segregation, i.e. apartheid. I know some > > > people actually advocate this (possibly in an attempt to keep their > > > "race" "pure"), but I have just as much sympathy for apartheid as a > > > system in tango as I had for it in other matters. > > > > I love it. Tango apartheid! That's hysterical. Alexis is making a good > > point, demonstrating just how absurd extremes can be. You know, if you > > really care what everybody else is doing all the time, there's just no > > end to how annoying the human race can be. > > Some dancers of tango milonguero outside Argentina have called for separate > venues for dancing tango milonguero and neuvo, so this is apparently what you > are referring to. > > It's convenient to call upon political correctness as ammunition while > avoiding the real issues at hand. Comparing separation of milongas based on > style 'apartheid' is not only inaccurate, it is unfair. Apartheid was a > policy of subjugation based on the color of one's skin, a fact of one's > birth. It is an ugly part of human history and should not be referred to > casually in making analogies. > > Wanting separation of tango venues because of musical and stylistic > preferences is based in part on cultural preferences, a matter of choice, not > of birth. It is certainly politically correct to support the rights of > minority cultures to engage in their own events without outside interference > but when the tango minority outside Argentina wants to have an environment > that resembles the milongas of Buenos Aires, this is called 'apartheid' or > 'intolerant' or 'arrogant' or 'elitist'. > > What some tango dancers don't understand or at least respect is that any > social environment has customs and rules. It is characteristic of a civilized > society to respect these customs and rules. Milongas in Buenos Aires have > certain customs and rules, which include all classic tango music for dancing > tango, adhering to a line of dance, and respecting the space of others. Those > who prefer a dancing environment with different characteristics can go to > nuevo practicas. In Buenos Aires tango de salon and nuevo are segregated. In > Buenos Aires, dancers who enter a milonga are expected to follow the customs > and rules. If you don't, you will be warned or even asked to leave. > > There are tango dancers outside Argentina who would like to have a milonga > environment that has some of the characteristics of Buenos Aires milongas. If > you enter such a milonga, you should adhere to the wishes of the milonga > organizer. You cannot impose your own values on the organizer. If you don't > like the rules, don't enter the milonga. If you prefer not to abide by the > rules and customs of dancing in a line of dance, keeping you feet on the > floor and dancing only to classic tango, just stay away. You probably have > your own tango venue where your new vision of tango is supported. Please > respect the rights of others to create the environment they want. Don't > expect everyone to make adjustments to your behavior and your cultural values. > > Ron > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tango-L mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l -- cheers tony _______________________________________________ Tango-L mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
