Hello Trini:

The problem with not being able to execute the ocho cortado is FRAME. The man 
steps sideways to his right for a rock step, and then rotates his shoulders to 
the left with a slight lift, closing his feet. The woman should step side left 
but not commit her weight to the left foot because it's a rock step. This is 
identical to leading the woman to the cross. The lift is needed to tell the 
woman to keep her weight on the right foot.  If the woman's frame is too tight 
(pushing her right hand outward as far and as stiff as she can), she has 
physically locked her frame so she can't stay on her right foot. Her stiff 
frame pushes herself onto her left foot. Now on her left foot, the only way she 
can get in front of the man is with a forward ocho. 

Another problem is if the man leads a side step that's too big, forcing the 
woman to transfer her weight to her left foot. 

Michael
I danced Argentine Tango --with the Argentines

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) 
  Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Navigation


  I've also noticed issues with certain vocabulary since milonguero style has 
become more prevalent. Such as women having more difficulty recognizing moments 
to cross and anticipating ocho cortado rather than forward ochos. Anyone else 
have that experience?

  Trini de Pittsburgh
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