I would suggest that those who have contributed to this thread, or would like to do so, read the following.
damian.thompson@... allegedly wrote: > Hey fuckhead ... followed by a mix of opinions and personal attacks. Actually, this was a personal email sent to Vince Bagušauskas, apparently in response to one of his posts. Mr. Thompson did, indeed, attempt to post the same email (minus only the colourful salutation) to the list, thereby further cementing his status on the list as "on permanent moderation" (as the rest of the post was not much of an improvement on the salutation). As all members of this list know (or should know if they followed the suggestion to read the list rules before posting), personal attacks are prohibited on this list. There is a longish list of other rules that are enforced to varying degrees (most rather lightly), but the one against personal attacks is always enforced (and rather vigourously). The post by David Burnett <daviburn@...> (obviously now on moderation as well): > I would have said "bombastic troll" or "ignorant pedant" > myself. > Those who can dance do, those who can't write meaningless crtiques clearly falls into this category (not to mention the absence of any Tango content either). The idea is that no one should feel inhibited from posting because they are afraid of being attacked personally. Of course, there is no guarantee that this will not happen by personal email, and it may even happen on the list by someone who abuses his non-moderated status, but at least in the latter case it WILL be dealt with. (As an aside, it boggles the mind that people who cannot even manage socially responsible behaviour on a discussion list expect others to believe that they can possibly fit into the considerably more socially demanding environment of a milonga.) But returning to Mr. Thompson's blocked post, it made it to the list courtesy only of the attacked person who, with whatever purpose, apparently intentionally posted the personal email to the list (a violation of the list rules that is in fact taken more seriously than most). In a Hitchcock-sian twist, Mr. Bagušauskas gets the "credit" for posting this flame (see the rule that says that if you post for someone who is on moderation, you take responsibility for the content of the post). Other random observations: As far as the appropriateness of Mr. Bagušauskas's original post providing the link to the video, notwithstanding Trini y Sean \(PATangoS\)" <patangos@...>'s admonishment: > Vince, if you > didn't like it and were only going to criticize it (knowing perfectly > well that others will like it), then why bother posting it at all? it was an entirely legitimate post, save only for the fact that it was a "trivial one-liner" post and should have had some more "meat" to it. I.e., don't just post a YouTube link--tell us WHY you are posting it, what is so special out out, what you liked or didn't like about it, etc. (And yes, indeed the two videos on the making of the ad are much more rewarding to watch than the ad itself--turn off the sound on your computer if the music bothers you.) And regarding Charles Roques <c.roques@...>'s suggestion: > We have alternative milongas, but now we need an alternative tango list (hint, > hint Sharukh or whomever ) for the cargo pants, t-shirts and sneakers (and > hot pants) crowd. For the record, as far as Tango-L is concerned, it's all still Tango. It's all considered Tango in Buenos Aires even amongst people who have a preferences for one style or the other (and it's really more of a continuum anyway), and I'm not for creating divisions, notwithstanding my own stylistic preferences when it comes to dancing. As some wise philosopher said, one learns more by listening to the opinions of those who disagree with you, or think differently than you (as long as they do so politely :-)). [email protected] Tango-L and Tango-A administrators P.S. Not sure where the list rules are? Try www.tango-L.com ... P.P.S. Don't CARE about the list rules? Same link (for unsubscription instructions). _______________________________________________ Tango-L mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
