----- Original Message ---- > From: Tom Stermitz <[email protected]>
> I have to disagree with you Ron. I use volcadas ALL the time. > Calecitas frequently; Colgadas sometimes; even sandwiches. > On Apr 22, 2011, at 3:27 AM, RonTango wrote: > > > .... Milongueros don't use colgadas and volcadas. > > > > Ron > Tom, I still hold by the statement that 'Milongueros don't use colgadas and volcadas'. So therefore it is incorrect to attach 'milonguero/a' to the end of a step that milongueros don't use. If someone can provide video proof of an authentic milonguero (not a self-proclaimed merchant of 'milonguero-style tango') using a colgada or volcada, please share it. (The one provided previously doesn't meet the standard.) And I don't mean the slight lean that may occur on SOME occasions with a calesita. Volcar means 'to fall', not 'to lean'. Even the 'leaning' is rarer than some tango instructors would have us think. Just spend some time sitting and watching in the traditional milongas of Buenos Aires. Take a look a the large collection of videos of milongueros and Buenos Aires milongas by Janis Kenyon on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/Jantango As for calesitas and sandwiches, yes, they are used by milongueros, Calesitas, rarely and subtly, but still visible when they actually might occur. Sandwiches, sometimes, but not that often either. That's more common as part of what is sometimes called 'Estilo Villa Urquiza', which is actually relatively rare in Buenos Aires milongas today. Why don't we get down to dancing tango as it is really danced in the milongas of Buenos Aires today rather than applying wishful thinking in making tango what we want it to be or what some self-proclaimed tango expert wants us to believe is authentic. Attaching the term 'milonguero' to a step may give us a false sense of security in accurately representing the culture, but it's just a word, not necessarily reality. The focus of tango should be partner connection, connection with the music, and movement within the ronda, not the naming and testing of steps. Ron _______________________________________________ Tango-L mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
