Checking out 4.0 and seeing what if anything I need to do to run Trails on it is one of the next things on my to-do list, but I haven't got to it just yet. I've just been thru quite a round of fun moving Trails from being Xdoclet based to annotation based, so I want to catch my breath and do a .7 release. Moving to Tapestry 4.0 will probably follow closely after that. I look forward to these helpful additions, off the top of my head the new validation stuff is the only other thing I can think of that Trails really "needs".
--Chris --- Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris; > > Hope you've been keeping track of 4.0 as well, in > terms of what 4.0 > needs to provide to support and improve Trails. > I've added specific > exceptions for PageNotFound and ComponentNotFound, > which should make > it reasonable for Trails to "sniff" for pages in the > app, and > componentds with pages (or other components). > > On 5/23/05, Chris Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > That's greate news, Paul. I myself would really > like > > to see 4.0 have the new validation in it. > Improved > > validation is one of the things I am really hoping > to > > have as incentive for Trails to upgrade to 4.0. > It > > would be a shame if it had to wait for 4.1, IMO. > > > > --Chris > > > > --- Paul Ferraro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My how time flies... My progress with > validation > > > improvements has > > > admittedly been very slow over the last few > months > > > as I have been very > > > swamped with work. My schedule will be > lightening > > > up this week - and I > > > expect to be able to devote all of this weekend > and > > > much of next week to > > > Tapestry. I expect to have the bulk of this > checked > > > in within the week. > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > Howard Lewis Ship wrote: > > > > > > >So, how long until 4.0 is ready? That's the > > > question I get every single day. > > > > > > > >I had origionally hoped that 4.0 would be a > faster > > > release than 3.0. > > > >I was very, very off. > > > > > > > >However, I'm pretty thrilled with how 4.0 is > coming > > > out. I think it > > > >will be somewhat revolutionary in terms of how > > > Tapestry applications > > > >are created, and developing applications will > be > > > simpler than ever. > > > >Things just *work*. > > > > > > > >Mind Bridge has some new, smarter looping > > > components waiting in the > > > >wings, and there's been murmurs of reworked > > > validation from Paul > > > >and/or Harish, but nothing's been checked in. > > > > > > > >I'd like to break out the big "Deferred until > 4.1" > > > stamp and focus on > > > >bug fixes and documentation. I think Tapestry > 4.0 > > > needs to get to a > > > >beta release Very Soon Now and I think its > > > important for the final > > > >release be available before the end of the > summer. > > > > > > > >On thing to bear in mind is that many future > > > enhancements to Tapestry > > > >can be decoupled from the main release; because > of > > > HiveMind it will be > > > >practical to package not only component > libraries, > > > but framework > > > >enhancements, in add-on JARs, allowing for > > > significant off-cycle > > > >improvements (that may be how I approach Java > > > annotations support). > > > > > > > >I honestly think that the 4.1 cycle *will* be > > > short, and will focus on > > > >components, including Ajax-style components. > > > > > > > >One low impact idea I had was to "integrate" > > > existing components with > > > >validation. This would mean adding displayName > > > parameters to all > > > >field-element components, and extending them > to, at > > > least, allow the > > > >validation delegate to decorate them. With the > > > expected split between > > > >converters and validators (the former > converting > > > between object-values > > > >and client-side string values, and the latter > > > enforcing constraints) > > > >it would be limiting to allow existing > components > > > to have validators, > > > >but the decoration is reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant > Creator, Jakarta Tapestry > Creator, Jakarta HiveMind > > Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support > and project work. http://howardlewisship.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
