The annotation code will be segregated into a seperate module. We'll
be able to please everyone (I think).

On 6/9/05, tsvetelin saykov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> From my point of view for half of the companies/users that use
> Tapestry the migration to java 5 will not be a problem, but it become
> a issue for a companies with huge codebase or based on application
> servers.
> 2 weeks ago I participate to discussion about Java 5 in one of the
> companies close to me, and the decision was to use 1.4 for production
> and 5 for blueprints application and research. In their case migration
> to Java 5 could be a problem.
> 
> I prefer to keep Tapestry independent from Java 5 now.
> 
> Tsvetelin
> 
> 
> On 6/9/05, Richard Lewis-Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was hoping to get a little more feedback from the others here before
> > deciding whether this needed to be put to a vote...
> >
> > The main issue to me is whether requiring JDK 5 to BUILD Tapestry is
> > going to be workable?  If there's going to be problems there, we might
> > be able to look at some sort of conditional compilation for the annotations.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > Ron Piterman wrote:
> > > So why not vote on adding it as an (unmature) extention to the tapestry
> > > project?
> > >
> > >
> > > ציטוט Richard Lewis-Shell:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I think we should add annotation support to Tapestry 4.  The initial
> > >> hard work has already been done by Joni
> > >> (http://paloalto.laughingpanda.com/mediawiki/index.php/Tapestry_Annotations),
> > >> so this would mostly be a matter of merging his work (which has been
> > >> deliberately compatibly licensed BTW).  The benefit seems clear - and
> > >> we can claim support for one of Java 5's most interesting features
> > >> (and by extension, thus Java 5 itself).  The downside would be that we
> > >> would have to use Java 5 to build Tapestry.  Is that going to be a
> > >> problem?
> > >>
> > >> Because this is a completely new feature, I do not see a good reason
> > >> to wait.  Does anyone else?
> > >>
> > >> There is another reason I am interested in seeing this incorporated
> > >> into Tapestry sooner rather than later - one of encouraging our user
> > >> community.  It seems to me that we are a strange open-source project -
> > >> we have a very good/strong user community, but not such a strong
> > >> developer community.  We are currently very Howard-centric - there is
> > >> a lot of looking to Howard to guide us/tell-us-how-it-will-be (eg.
> > >> recently it was suggested that template defaults were "in Howard's
> > >> hands", and this attitude permeates on the -user list).  While Howard
> > >> has done an incredible job of getting us this far, there is only so
> > >> much one person can do, even if that person is Howard!!!  I think we
> > >> run the very real risk of losing relevance to other popular projects
> > >> in the same space (JSF, struts etc) with more active developer
> > >> communities.  We are the only ones who can change that, and we do it
> > >> (IMO) by encouraging users to contribute more to the project, and the
> > >> obvious way to encourage user contribution is to incorporate those
> > >> contributions that fit well with Tapestry into the framework itself.
> > >>
> > >> To bring this back to the here and now, annotation support is such a
> > >> user-contribution that I think fits well with Tapestry.
> > >>
> > >> Richard
> > >
> > >
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