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*cough* and just as an aside... cayenne's jumping head first into the
incubator... just thought I'd throw that in there. ;-)

Very good to know about using 'non-Apache' licensed code for things like
that. Thanks for the tip.

Brian

Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> The new licensing stuff is still getting finalized but I selfishly threw
> myself into the conversation to specifically address this issue. More can be
> found here http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party/ (if you enjoy reading
> legalise)
> 
> The gist of it is that we can include hibernate in tapestry demo apps,
> included within the apache svn repositories, so long as we generally do the
> following:
> 
> -) Any demo using lgpl (hibernate) software can't be part of the standard
> build. It has to be a specific build that the user invokes, which also warns
> or somehow notifies the user that this is "not apache" code and that the
> licensing restrictions are different. (Probably pointing them to the lgpl
> license, wherever it is found).
> 
> -) We still can't include actual hibernate jars in the repo, but everyone
> seems to download them from ibiblio anyways so that's ok.
> 
> The biggest thing to take away is that we have to be really clear that this
> code is not part of the standard project and more or less has nothing to do
> with "tapestry" the apache project, but is more of an offshoot sort of
> example project.
> 
> Either way we can use it now which is really cool. Yay for whoever made this
> happen at apache! :) I don't want to get sidetracked too much from my
> 4.1dev work but I'm probably going to change the demo (TimeTracker) at
> some
> point to use hibernate libraries, probably using honeycomb.javaforge.com as
> the bridge. (I may have to modify things at honeycomb as well if they don't
> fit what I need, we'll see).
> 
> --
> Jesse Kuhnert
> Tacos/Tapestry, team member/developer
> 
> Open source based consulting work centered around
> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind.  http://opennotion.com
> 

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