On Wednesday 18 September 2002 20:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That's pretty awesome stuff; looks good and its Tapestry.

>
> Perhaps we should extend the Shell component to better
> support XHTML, looks like you had to work around it.
>
> But does WebForms have the Inspector?

No ... nothing as cool as that.

>
> I think it would be truly excellent if you could donate
> this PetStore to Tapestry.  We could make it a new demo,
> along with Tutorial and Vlib and it would definately get
> some attention.

That was always my plane,I  would like to finish it first, like I said there 
is only a few things left to do.
On second thought ...since the cat is out of the bag and I already ruined the 
surprise I can send you the code as his now, if you want.
Oh.. and I'm a very inexperient Java developer, be prepared not to like what 
you will see.



>
> For it to be "shake and bake" like the existing demos,
> it really should deploy into JBoss 3.0.0 and McKoi.

Ok ... But I will have to learn how to use JBoss an the Mckoi DB first.


>
> Going forward, we need to figure out how to address the
> performance problems.  Is it memory thrash, or pure cpu-
> hogging?

It's the CPU hogging, under heavy load Tapestry applications consume huge 
amounts of processor power.


>
> Over the last couple of releases I've definately traded
> off performance for ease of development.  Connected
> parameters and OGNL both make things simpler and reduce
> the amount of Java code, but are more costly at
> runtime.  Most of my ideas for this going forward are
> the same.


The OGNL is one of the most coolest tapestry recent aditions, and even if it 
brings a small performance hit, it's a performance hit I'm willing to take.


>
> At some point, I need to purchase a good profiling tool
> and see what's really going on inside Tapestry.  There
> does not, yet, appear to be a useable, free profiling
> tool.

If you plan to purchase one of such tools, I would like to contribute.
When the time comes just tell me to where to I send the cheque.



> Of course, CPU power is the one thing that you can
> always buy more of, and it gets cheaper every day!

True, but you know how some people think ... if ASP.NET is faster than 
Tapestry  in the same hardware then it *MUST* be better.
Nevermid the fact that Tapestry has the Inspector, a cooler way of page 
interoperability, a nicer validation framework, easy localization suport, a 
perfect separation of roles, a Lego-brick approach to components, a killer 
way of reusing said components, IDE support thanks to Spindle and not just 
any IDE but Eclipse... which is one of the best IDE's around, more developer 
friendly exception reporting ... well you get the picture.

>
> Again, excellent job!

Thank you,
It was only made possible because of Tapestry.

Best regards,

Luis Neves



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