On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 06:02, Joseph Panico wrote:
> Yeah, Hibernate seems to work. I'm using it, but so far only for a very 
> simple model.
> 
> The jakarta OJB is the jakarta JDO project? If so, read up on JDO first-- 
> the whole spec smacks of utter failure a la JavaBlend right now. It was 
> designed by a committee of ODMG refugees and database vendors. It's truly 
> bizarre, requiring a post-processor to run over the compiled persistent 
> object class files to modify the binaries. That's their idea of transparent 
> persistence? A number of knowledgeable people, like the chief engineer for 
> CocoaBase, have written fairly detailed articles on "why jdo sucks". My idea 
> of transparent persistence is what Hibernate and TopLink have done.

I'm using a commercial JDO implementation now (Kodo www.solarmetric.com)
and find it very transparent. I don't care what post-processors I need
to run, as long as I don't have to think too hard when I'm writing the
code (JDO is not completely transparent -- I'd like to try prevayler).

I last used Cocobase 2-3 years ago, and back then its query language was
very hard to use. It may be better now.

When an open source JDO implementation appears I'll be very interested.

Tom



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