Mark Dillon wrote: >I'll preface this by saying that Hivemind is a fabulous framework. It >doesn't, however, have the level of integration with other popular >frameworks that Spring has. IMHO the Tapestry/Spring/Hibernate >combination is the way to go. Spring greatly simplifies the use of >Hibernate (or Ibatis, JDO, whatever ORM framework) in an application. > > Why not just Hibernate and Spring? Doesn't Spring have a web ui? Just asking.
>I use spring to manage the configuration of the DAO and Service >layers, and Tapestry's localization features are perfect for managing >web layer stuff. I keep all of my configuration in .properties files >and load them from the classpath with a Spring >PropertyPlaceholderConfigurer. This way, I can keep these properties >files anywhere as long as they're in the classpath of application. >This is great for external configuration. > > Sounds good, but does having all these frameworks just cause clutter? I don't know. I guess being new to these frameworks seems overwhelming. >As an aside, I've taken to using Matt Raible's fabulous appfuse >framework (with appgen) to kickstart my applications, and I think it >would be a great place for you to start if you're interested in this >combination. Hope this helps. Good luck! > > Ya, I saw that appfuse. How well can you get that in Netbeans after generating an app? Again seems overwhelming to me right now. Yes all this helps. I'm a pretty picky person about adding new stuff without vetting over it. >Cheers, >Mark > >On 5/11/05, Stanczak Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>No wait I think I misspoke. I meant Commons Configuration. >> >>Stanczak Group wrote: >> >> >> >>>Really what I'm wanting to do can probably be address by just using >>>something like Commons Digester. But maybe using a framework like >>>Hivemind I could better organize my logic. Again, as you can tell I'm >>>just not understanding all the pieces. >>> >>>Jamie Orchard-Hays wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>The questions are, "What problems are you trying to solve?" "Which >>>>frameworks help you solve them best: Spring, Hivemind, none?" In other >>>>words, you must have a need, a problem to solve that requires a >>>>framework like Hivemind. >>>> >>>>Tapestry Picasso uses Hivemind to give it greater flexibility, >>>>extensibility, configurability. You can pretty much ignore it for >>>>basic Tapestry tasks. >>>> >>>>There have been some threads over the past few days about using Spring >>>>for DB stuff, which (from what I read, not personal experience) >>>>integrates well with Tapestry and Hivemind. >>>> >>>>Jamie >>>> >>>>On May 11, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Stanczak Group wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I've been looking at Hivemind, Spring, etc, trying to understand things. >>>>>So what I've came up with thus far is since I'm starting out fresh and >>>>>am already using Tapestry, I would probably be wise to use Hivemind. Is >>>>>this correct? Then I see Tapestry is being built on Hivemind, so that >>>>>makes me think it's a better choice. Now I'm trying to understand the >>>>>combo of Tapestry and Hivemind. I'm guessing you still use Hivemind >>>>>separate from Tapestry, and Tapestry is using Hivemind for it's own >>>>>uses. But my question is will the addition of Hivemind to Tapestry add >>>>>the features I'm looking for to Tapestry and I won't need Hivemind, or >>>>>would I still be smart to go ahead and use Hivemind to help me better >>>>>develop my software? Maybe I'm way off here. I think I understand the >>>>>use of Hivemind, but I'm looking into the future and wondering what >>>>>direction I should follow. If my questions don't make sense then I'm >>>>>probably not understanding the use of Hivemind. Can someone direct me? >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Justin Stanczak >>>>>Stanczak Group >>>>>812-735-3600 >>>>> >>>>>"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do >>>>>nothing." >>>>>Edmund Burke >>>>> >>>>>..________...............__................. >>>>>./ _____/..____..._____/..|_..____...____.... >>>>>/...\..____/.__.\./....\...__\/.._.\./._..\.... >>>>>\....\_\..\..___/|...|..\..|.(..<_>.|.<_>..).... >>>>>.\______../\___.._\__|../__|..\____/.\____/...... >>>>>........\/.....\/.....\/.......................... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Justin Stanczak >>Stanczak Group >>812-735-3600 >> >>"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." >>Edmund Burke >> >>..________...............__................. >>./ _____/..____..._____/..|_..____...____.... >>/...\..____/.__.\./....\...__\/.._.\./._..\.... >>\....\_\..\..___/|...|..\..|.(..<_>.|.<_>..).... >>.\______../\___.._\__|../__|..\____/.\____/...... >>........\/.....\/.....\/.......................... >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- Justin Stanczak Stanczak Group 812-735-3600 "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." 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