I think that Tassel is good, Of course! But is not enough!
Tassel is a place to Upload compoments...Thats not enough for a
technology to fight against JSF.

I think that we absolutely need a library with a different
approach...not just a repository.  Maybe we can use the components in
tassel or change the way tassel works, but the project has to work in
a different way.

Juan


On 7/6/05, Robert Zeigler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As the sole maintainer of Tassel... ;)
> I agree. I think Tassel has been at least a moderate success;
> it has 25 components or code-contributions in it, which have been made
> over the one year. It would be nice to see the various repositories
> combined.  It would also be nice to see the functionality of any one off
> the repositories expanded.  Maybe it's my bias, but it seems that Tassel
> currently provides the best base in terms of providing general users the
> ability to upload their own components.
> Someone mentioned an enforced format; I deliberately made Tassel very
> flexible in the format it accepted because I feel that enforcing a
> format is a barrier to getting components "out there".
> On the other hand, I've been contemplating revamping some of Tassel's
> internals to take non-standard input and produce standard output
> (primarily producing proper component-libraries with palette plugin
> support).  I've also been toying with the idea of making a sort of
> "ala-cart library" functionality which would let a user select a set of
> components and package them all into a single library.
> Unfortunately, I've just moved 1/2 across the United States and am
> currently without Internet access (writing this from a local shop with
> free WIFI :).  I'm also in the middle of a major project at work, and
> really don't have the time to spare right now.
> I'd be happy to create a "tassel" sourceforge project to enable other
> people to have access to the source, contribute patches, etc.
> Tassel, itself, would continue to be hosted at its current location. If
> someone is willing to handle the domain registration, $$, etc, I could
> talk with the folks who kindly host the project about having another
> domain name pointing to the server and getting a virtual-host setup for
> it.
> Someone mentioned having "live" component demos... I've thought about
> that quite a bit... initially it seemed like a good idea, but upon
> further thought, I decided I didn't like it. It's nice for the user, but
> consider that you would essentially be opening up your server for the
> execution of arbitrary java code with the permissions of the
> servlet-runner user or whatever amount of sandbox has been placed on the
> webapp, itself.  But maybe there could be a url to a demo site and have
> an iframe render the demo site for the component, or something along
> those lines?
> 
> To sum up, I think that starting yet another library project from
> scratch is less than a good idea.  Consolidating the existing ones is a
> great idea.  :)
> 
> Robert Zeigler
> 
> Jamie Orchard-Hays wrote:
> > It seems to me that what we need to do is combine the component
> > libraries into one place. Also, if none of those sites has all that's
> > needed, expand the new site's capabilities.
> >
> > We should probably move this discussion over to the developer list as well.
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> > Ron Piterman wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >> What I noticed is that many times you have to create components which
> >> are trivial, but are not there.
> >>
> >> Examples:
> >> A Date component consisting of three Inputs instead of the JavaScript
> >> one.
> >> A Property Selection which submits also on disable.
> >> A Property Selection which shows values depending on another property
> >> selection.
> >> aso.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tassel is at the moment a good repository, but has very limited
> >> functionality.
> >>
> >> I think a repository which is something like the eclipseplugins.org is
> >> needed, + enabling hosting of components, improved documentation,
> >> example and download of each component.
> >>
> >> I wish I had the time to help realize such a site...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ציטוט Juan Esteban Maya:
> >>
> >>> I have been working with tapestry for almost 3-4 months and its really
> >>> nice. The development process and the productivity incressed a lot.
> >>> But what i really miss (well i wish) is to have a big and robust
> >>> component library.
> >>>
> >>> This has been already discussed in the mailing list, but i guess it
> >>> deserves more attention. JSF, which i think is the biggest Tapestry
> >>> competitor has already a lot of Subprojects, componentes libraries,
> >>> even comercial ones(Well, yes is sun i know!) and i havent seen a new
> >>> tapestry Components in a while. I think this issue is fundamental to
> >>> new tapestry users. If i have to choose a new component technology the
> >>> first thing that i will look are the components that the technology
> >>> can offers...Tapestry is clearly behind JSF in this aspect.
> >>>
> >>> Any thoughts about how can we, Tapestry users, have big component
> >>> library? Not just a repository.
> >>>
> >>> Juan
> >>>
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