What is exposes to the "average" user is getting simpler, but not when you are writing a sophisticated app and building complex components... My statement isn't a criticism but a comment. On my current project (a mutual fund trading site with over 120 pages - so I know what I'm speaking about) we've had numerous instances where we've had to dig deep into the framework to track down unexpected behavior.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Lewis Ship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tapestry users" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: Re: Tapestry starting to look too steep I find this a funny reaction to where Tapestry is evolving to. The enhancements in 4.0 are mostly about letting the framework do more; it may be more "esoteric" beneath the surface, but what it exposes to the user is getting simpler and simpler. On 7/19/05, Patrick Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Karthik Abram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:52 PM > > To: Tapestry users > > Subject: RE: Tapestry starting to look too steep > > > > > > The best way to learn Tapestry is to write a component on your own. I do > > agree that .NET is way simpler - with 4.0 it "feels" like Tapestry is > > becoming more esoteric (deliberately using 'esoteric' and not > > 'complicated'). > > > > Yah, I get the same feel. It's becoming more and more a tool for > hard core programmers. I mean how many programming newbies even know what > the *concept* of a delegate is, much less understand annotation libraries, > the whole "bean" thing, etc. > > I'm kind of of two minds about the direction, because on the one > hand the hard-core programmer in me goes "cool, I can use some of that > stuff", but the pragmatist in me wonders if it might be approaching a > complexity level where it'll be easier to just roll my own than learn the > tapestry way. I suppose the actual release of 4.0 will tell the tale, until > then all I can do is keep my fingers crossed. > > --- Pat > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant Creator, Jakarta Tapestry Creator, Jakarta HiveMind Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support and project work. http://howardlewisship.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
