While I can't speak for Cayane (I've never used it), I can
definitely confirm that Hibernate has one of the most arrogant, insular, and
unhelpful communities I've ever had the misfortune to interact with. I have
to hold my nose every time I post a question on their boards and, as often a
not, I get a one line answer that is a variant on "stupid newb, stfu and
rtfm."
If the library itself wasn't so good I'd have deleted it in a
heartbeat just for the pure joy of not having to *ever* interact with the
hibernate community again. If I were to start a new project I'd definitely
look at Cayanne, but for existing stuff, I've already made the commitment to
Hibernate.
--- Pat
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 4:17 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: Back to Tapestry after an Year
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> Many people- many opinions. The emphasis on the
> modeller in Cayene is the decisive factor why I do NOT
> want to explore this product :). Just me.
>
> --- James Treleaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Konstantin Ignatyev wrote:
> > > Could you share what exactly makes you to consider
> > > Cayene being better tnan Hibernate?
> >
> > Like Eric (whose opinion obviously counts for a lot
> > more than mine), I
> > like the fact that Cayenne will dynamically fault
> > relationships for you,
> > and I prefer the Cayenne modeler to constructing XML
> > text files or using
> > XDoclet. Cayenne's biggest practical advantage IMHO
> > is the mailing list
> > - I don't think I have ever seen a question gone
> > unanswered and I have
> > never seen anyone get dressed down for asking
> > something basic or silly.
> >
> > Then there is the unquantifiable aesthetic factor,
> > Cayenne just *feels*
> > cleaner to me.
> >
> > I cannot say that Cayenne is head and shoulders
> > above Hibernate, but I
> > do wish more people would give it a chance rather
> > than just running to
> > the more popular object/relational mapping tool.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
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> Konstantin Ignatyev
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> PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen
> million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of
> tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between
> forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil,
> add 2,700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population
> by 263,000
>
> Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement Needs
> a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New York:
> State University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)
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