Services are usually not stateful. There are exceptions to this, and
it depends on how you construct your service through hivemind. I
personally have dealt much with anything besides the stateless service
so all the default construction methods work fine for me but know
there are other methods out there for it.

-Nick

On 9/16/05, Rob Dennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are your services stateful?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Trewin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:43 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: RE: services vs. ASOs
> 
> Services should be used for your application logic. Ideally as much of
> the actual functionality of your app can be moved to services, leaving
> very little in your actual Tapestry component/page classes.
> 
> I find that this approach provides a good starting point for designing
> the app, as my services are designed to be non-Tapestry aware (meaning
> they're easy to test and use in other places, potentially even other web
> frameworks).
> 
> ASOs should really be limited to just holding a small amount of data
> that you need to persist in the session, or application-wide data.
> 
> In our applications we've use Hivemind to help us heavily modularise our
> code. For an example, our authentication system is built out of small
> services which hivemind glues together for us. The Tapestry components
> and pages simply delegate calls to these services. The only ASO we use
> is a small class which holds an active user session for logged in users.
> 
> Hivemind instantiates services as they are needed (although you can
> force services to be initialised at startup). ASOs are created when they
> are first accessed.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Dennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 15 September 2005 21:23
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: services vs. ASOs
> 
> For what purposes should you be using Hivemind services versus ASOs.  I
> gather that services should be stateless, but how should they divide up
> the business logic?  What is an example of where you would use each?
> 
> 
> 
> Also, when are the two instantiated?  At launch?  On first use?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Rob
> 
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