Yes you're right, but what if I'd like to initialize properties to non
default values specific for each request. For instance I will get
identifier into persistent (userId) property in page and want some
method to initialize non persistent property (user).

2005/9/17, Muralidhar Y. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> 
> Hi actually what I mean to say is by using detach method we can achieve the
> same thing. For example without initializing variables in initialize method
> you initialize them directly and set them to initial values in detach
> method. So when you initialize them directly they will be initialized and
> when going to the pool after the request, the detach method is called . So
> in detach method again you initialize them to initial values so when they go
> to pool they will have initial values only. That's what I mean to say.
> 
> In detach method we can detach the variable values and can initialize them
> to initial values. But when writing detach method you have to call
> super.detach() also. Is my explanation clear now or shall I explain with
> small example.
> 
> One more approach is you write your own method something like Initialize and
> initialize the variables in that method and write the detach method and call
> super.detach() first and then call your method which is initializing the
> values.  It does the same job as the old initialize method.
> 
> 
> Muralidhar Y
> Software Engineer,
> Adastrum technologies-Nikai groups,
> EmiratesGroup-I.T Division,
> Dubai, UAE.
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomáš Drencák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 17 September 2005 21:39
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: jwc files and annotations
> 
> Detach method is not deprecated, it shold be use to set properties to their
> initial state not initialization.
> 
> 2005/9/17, Muralidhar Y. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > What about detach method. Is it also depricated? i am not sure but
> > have a look at detach method. It does the same job.
> >
> >
> > Muralidhar Y
> > Software Engineer,
> > Adastrum technologies-Nikai groups,
> > EmiratesGroup-I.T Division,
> > Dubai, UAE.
> > Mobile : 00971-50-2256149.
> > http://www.adastrumtech.com
> > http://www.mercator.aero
> > (Keep Smiling. Be happy All The Time.)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nick Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 17 September 2005 16:32
> > To: Tapestry users; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: jwc files and annotations
> >
> > In tapestry 4 you should use the pageBeginRender method and implement
> > the PageBeginRenderListener. You should be able to initialize any page
> > properties you want here.
> >
> > There is also a coresponding pageEndRender and PageEndRenderListener
> > but I dont think its used quite as much, but its there.
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> > On 9/17/05, Tomáš Drenčák <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Yes initialize method is good and even its name sounds like it's
> > > initializing smth. I have used it in tapestry 3 but now it is
> > > deprecated. Is there an alternative method to initialize?
> > >
> > > 2005/9/17, Muralidhar Y. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
> > > > hi some times I got error when I am not passing IRequestCycle as
> > > > parameter to listener method.
> > > >
> > > > To initialize the parameters there is initialize method you also
> > > > can have a look at detach method and see.page begin render is , if
> > > > you want to do something before any component renders itself. Page
> > > > validate is if you want to do any validations like user is
> > > > authenticated or not and any other page validations you can use it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Muralidhar Y
> > > > Software Engineer,
> > > > Adastrum technologies-Nikai groups, EmiratesGroup-I.T Division,
> > > > Dubai, UAE.
> > > > Mobile : 00971-50-2256149.
> > > > http://www.adastrumtech.com
> > > > http://www.mercator.aero
> > > > (Keep Smiling. Be happy All The Time.)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Alan Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 16 September 2005 22:49
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: jwc files and annotations
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 16 September 2005 18:29, Tomáš Drenčák wrote:
> > > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another question... You are using pageValidate to set up
> > > > > thisPerson property. I'm still little bit confused about page
> > initialization.
> > > > > What are pageBeginRender, pageValidate and prepareForRender for?
> > > > > Where to initialize e.g. thisPerson from passed personId
> > > > > parameter? I've used pageBeginRender, lazy initialization, but
> > > > > which method is specially designed for this purpose?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I must admit, this was a bit trial and error.
> > > >
> > > > I pass the personId parameter via the following code in another
> > component.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         @InjectPage("Details")
> > > >         public abstract Details getDetailsPage();
> > > >
> > > >         public IPage doShowDetails(int personId) {
> > > >             Details details = getDetailsPage();
> > > >             details.setPersonId(personId);
> > > >             return details;
> > > >         }
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > Where this code gets set up in the html template for this
> > > > component as
> > > >
> > > > <div class="surname">
> > > >         <span jwcid="@DirectLink"
> > > >                 listener="listener:doShowDetails"
> > > >                 parameters="ognl:person.id"
> > > >                 ><span jwcid="@Insert"
> > > >                         value="ognl:person.surname"
> > > >                         >Chandler</span></span> </div>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think PageBeginRender failed  (thinking back to when I orginally
> > > > had
> > it
> > > > here) because there seems to be a validation phase of the page
> > > > before
> > then,
> > > > and I had not set up the record, and had null pointer exceptions.
> > > >
> > > > I think the page initialisation failed because the setPersonId
> > > > call
> > hadn't
> > > > happened (maybe - difficult to remember now) the initialisation
> > > > got
> > called
> > > > when I did the first call to getDetailsPage in the listener above.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alan Chandler
> > > > http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk
> > > >
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