Jesse is the tacos guy, and I think he meant kickstart vs hivetrans
when he was talking about competition.

On 1/17/06, Ted Steen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> oups!
> just read about the property-persistence-strategy "conversation"
> so the cache size would not be a problem.
> nice..
>
> On 1/17/06, Ted Steen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hi!
> >
> > I think the generic data access objects on the hibernate page could be
> > usefull as they, among other things, support a generic way to specify
> > the id (not only long).
> >
> > One thing that I come to think about regarding the
> > session-per-conversation pattern is that there could be memory issues.
> > the session cache could grow (per session!), and that would not scale
> > very well. I`m quite new to hibernate and peristent layers in general
> > so I could be wrong here :)
> >
> > I haven`t seen the stuff Jesse has done, where can I find it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/17/06, Schulte Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > hi ted,
> > > thanks for the feedback!
> > >
> > > > Why do you not use Hivetranse for session/transaction management?
> > > > There has already been done alot of work on that. It is a clean
> > > > Hivemind contribution. Check it out!
> > > > http://hivetranse.sourceforge.net/
> > > >
> > > That's a story which went a bit "unlucky". Last summer, I had a look at
> > > hivetranse, but it didn't support hivemind 1.1 yet which I already used, 
> > > and
> > > I really didn't want to backport ;). Then, I'm quite fond of the
> > > session-per-conversation pattern which is still not supported by 
> > > hivetranse.
> > > It seems to be scheduled for hivetranse 0.6, however. Lastly, I didn't 
> > > have
> > > the time to dig into hivetranse deeply enough to add what I needed.
> > >
> > > > Also, as you are using Java 5.0, I think you should consider using the
> > > > following patterns for generic data access objects:
> > > > http://www.hibernate.org/328.html
> > > >
> > > That would mean a generic AbstractPersistenceService, ... yes, looks like 
> > > it
> > > would make sense...
> > >
> > > > Another thing is the HibernateSqueezer on the wiki. I think it is
> > > > really a good thing, and easy to implement thanks to Hivemind.
> > > > http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-tapestry/HibernateTapestrySquee
> > > zer?highlight=%28hibernate%29
> > >
> > > That's definitively on my list for the next release. I'd like to have
> > > session-per-request, no detached objects as the second supported pattern
> > > (besides session-per-conversation). As far as i can see, that'll need a
> > > Datasqueezer and a custom PropertyPersistenceStrategy I'll take the
> > > Wiki-thing as a starting point. Also, Jesse uses this approach while I do
> > > not (currently), so I hope I'll be able to take a lot from his code.
> > >
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> > --
> > /ted
> >
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