Q3 would suck. Every spare second I have goes into spindle. A bit of
work is going on now to make Hugo's life easier with tapidea which has
stalled forward progress the last few days.

I wish I could state a date - but I can't. All I can do is plug (ha!)
away at it.

Geoff

On 2/1/06, Mark Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All,
> I guess I shouldn't have used the word "only", no offense was meant.  And I 
> wasn't being very accurate, my primary use for Spindle is to do a save and 
> rebuild and check for any errors.  It scans my entire project, which includes 
> 147 .jwc files and 15 .page files.  If anything is wrong anywhere it flags 
> the errors.  I also use it as I edit .html/.jwc files and my .application 
> file, to make sure that they are internally consistent.  I don't want to find 
> these errors at run-time!  Occasionally, I use the eclipse->New->Create 
> Component, to create new components, however, that is really only using the 
> pre-defined templates.  And I find it handy to use the auto-complete to 
> figure out what parameters are available, however this can be done by reading 
> the web-page.
>
> I have no desire to try and use Tapestry without Spindle!  As the "GUI Lead", 
> I have kept my entire development team on 3.03 waiting for Spindle.  Other 
> projects here, have moved on to Tapestry 4.
>
> However, all of the new stuff is 4.x.  Howard is already talking 5.0.  And I 
> have to decide when do we convert.  Someone (NOT Geoff) said something about 
> Q3, I was waiting for Geoff to respond back with "oh no, sooner than that".  
> However, I haven't heard anything to the contrary and I have to decide when 
> to move on to T4.
>
> In my previous e-mail, I was trying to tell Fanz that he could develop 
> Tapestry 4.0 without Spindle, but I wouldn't want to do so.
>
> Hope that explains my position better.
>
> regards,
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wed 2/1/2006 10:21 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: Re: Spindle for Tapesty 4?
>
> Now I *know* I have to pick up the pace on Spindle for Tapestry 4!
>
> while I would agree that "Spindle makes life easier, but is not required."
>
> I wonder, if the statement "Spindle is only used for editing" was made
> because Spindle does not yet support Tapestry 4?
>
> Editing is an afterthought in Spindle. Editing is the eye candy.
> Hardly the selling point of the tool.
>
> Any old Tapestry 3 users agree/disagree?
>
> Geoff
>
> On 2/1/06, Mark Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Fanz,
> > Spindle is only used for editing.  It is an eclipse plugin that highlights 
> > text and does edit checks.  I would consider it an eclipse editor for 
> > .jwc/.html and application files.  If you are looking for reference designs 
> > the wiki has a list of sites that have been implemented with Tapestry.
> >
> > Spindle makes life easier, but is not required.
> >
> > hth,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cui, Fanzhe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wed 2/1/2006 9:31 AM
> > To: Tapestry users
> > Subject: RE:  Re: Spindle for Tapesty 4?
> >
> > I did read that tutorial by Kent, and I think it is very good tutorial - I 
> > am even think buying the ebook for the rest of the chapters. What I am 
> > trying now is go further to design a web server with more sophisticated 
> > features. Before doing so, I wanted to see some reference designs with 
> > Tapestry, but I found some of them were using spindle as well.
> >
> > Fanz
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Piterman
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:12 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Spindle for Tapesty 4?
> >
> > There is a book on tapestry 4.0 from kent tong, and there is the getting
> > started tutorial in tapestry homepage - this should get one going, both
> > for tapestry 4.0ß and don't rely on spindle.
> > Cheers,
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > Cui, Fanzhe wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info. There are many good tutorials, demos, and reference
> > > designs for Tapestry. But many of them were based on Spindle + Tapestry
> > > 3. Currently many of Tapestry users are using Tapestry 4, and they have
> > > to roll back to Tapestry 3 if they want to try them.
> > > Regards,
> > > Fanz
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:55 AM
> > > To: Tapestry users
> > > Subject: Re: Spindle for Tapesty 4?
> > >
> > > You're contradicting yourself. I think Geoff will do a great work on
> > > Spindle for Tap 4. It's too bad nobody helps him (but heh, everybody has
> > >
> > > their hands full and very few people know about Eclipse development).
> > >
> > > But it will be there, right Geoff ?
> > >
> >
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