I was trying to use both Drupal and Joomla as easy CMS solutions. Drupal I thought was oogly, sloppy and didn't allow me to do what I wanted. Joomla looked swanky and was for the most part easy to use once you got the hang of how they do things, but I never went under the hood.
Key with each is that they had active communities, and participation was on multiple levels. With Joomla - there are various items you could plugin - templates, modules, components - and each worked within the overall framework. It was also highly localized, had a simple installer and a plethora of sites for support and templates. A key detriment is there seemed a lack of quality control for all these external items. Building a comprehensive CMS from scratch is no easy task and something hundreds have done before with varying degrees of success. We'd thought about building one using Cognition, but that is either far down the line or for someone else to tackle. In the meantime, of course our intent is to build as many apps as possible that use Tapestry. But as an example - most people don't know that Zillow.com was built using Tapestry, Spring and Hibernate - nor do they care. How do we make people care? How do we work with a company like Zillow so that 'Powered by Tapestry' is important for them to have on their site too? I am sure their technical team would like that. ;) Quoting "Brian K. Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Adam Zimowski wrote: > >> In regard to the future: I want us to have a larger Tapestry ecology - I > see a > >> future with open source and commercial tools, where there are Tapestry > CMS > >> products, E-commerce, support, etc. There was a thread regarding > promoting > >> Tapestry - how can we as a community follow up with this in an organized > way? > > > > At least nowdays, the best way to promote Tapestry is to build open > > source apps based on it that have a potential for high appeal to > > general public. You see all that PHP crap out there (like open source > > forum tools, etc). If we build apps on top of Tapestry, that in > > itself will promote the framework better than you tool you can build > > for it. > > > > Adam > > I don't see the two statements above as being contradictory. The > question is: How? > > I've been interested in a Tapestry-based + Tapestry-capable CMS for > quite a while (allowing designers to do the HTML is great - until it has > to be 'built' and packaged into a war and deployed... don't know about > you, but not what I consider a designer's job). That's the single > 'missing' cog in the "we got it right" scenario in my view. I delved > into the Lenya/Drupal arena to see how those methodologies could be > applied, but a more fundamental issue led me to Geoff and his efforts at > getting Spindle to work past 3.X. > Getting that piece accomplished would allow more general purpose "have > a component" mixing - but those would be possible now although more at a > developer level if they existed (and they might - but where?). > > Going the other route - blogging, forums, and wikis. I can (and have) > set these three up with little effort. Granted, I end up with JSPs, > Velocity macros, XSLT and a slew of other technological approaches, but > I can do it. Why not "install" and voila - "Powered By Tapestry"? No > reason - just hasn't been done (standard 'or if it has, where?' caveat > applies) > > What I see from the Tapestry Support Network is specialized. May be > wrong - but that's the impression I get. While I wouldn't mind being a > part of that, I'd rather be a part of the "roll out" of products > developed with Tapestry. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, > but teach him to fish - and sell him the bait. That kind of thing. ;-) > > So. The "how". heh - beats me. If you figure it out, let me know. As I > said - I'd like to be a part of that. :-) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) > > iD8DBQFEKMrSaCoPKRow/gARAgdNAJ4/QKHAlws+OI6XgNc//BHAG6EAiQCg2LU3 > U9Bt1ICdnHyN6ACoJFBhvPY= > =oBmV > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ........................................ Steve Motola [EMAIL PROTECTED] (310) 422-5521 The Lab, LLC http://www.thelabllc.com Content is for intended recipient only. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
