Yup. It'll go out to the HOPS mail list so you can find it in the archives if you aren't subscribed.
--aaron On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Fred Baker (fred) <[email protected]> wrote: > I’m interested but already have an activity that evening. Will there be > some posted summary? > > > On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Aaron Falk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > There has been long term and increasing interest in deploying transport > protocols with alternate dynamics and behaviors to TCP and UDP. The IETF > has standardized several new protocols including DCCP, UDP-lite, SCTP and > several changes to TCP including ECN and LEDBAT. All of these new > technologies have resulted in deployment challenges blamed on intentional > and unintentional interference by middleboxes such as NATs and firewalls. > This has lead to approaches such as building new protocols over UDP or HTTP > to make traffic look like something a middlebox would expect. However, both > these approaches have shortcomings and a variety of ameliorating > engineering approaches are being considered [1], [2], [3]. > > > > What is missing is a study with more than anecdotal evidence of the > nature of the problem and the portions of the network in which it > manifests. One of the best analyses to date is [4] which measures from a > very small number of locations: 49 residential, 17 enterprise, and 142 > locations in total. In the interest of getting ground-truth data about the > nature of the problem, we are organizing an informal effort starting with a > meeting (BarBoF) at the March IETF in Dallas to coordinate with network > stack, browser, and middlebox vendors, as well as network and service > operators, on collecting and reporting statistics about middlebox impact on > transport sessions. The objective is to determine a set of measurements > that can be made as a side effect of the normal operation of the networking > stack, and a reporting format that provides some visibility into the scope > and nature of middlebox impact while addressing end-user privacy and > business confidentiality concerns. > > > > The BarBoF meeting will be Sunday evening (March 22nd). Time & location > to be announced on the mailing list [5]. > > > > This activity is an outcome of the recent IAB workshop on Stack > Evolution in a Middlebox Internet [6]. > > > > Please forward to anyone interested in participating. > > > > -------- > > > > [1] IETF Transport Services Working Group (TAPS) > > > > [2] IAB Stack Evolution Program > > > > [3] Session Protocol for User Datagrams (SPUD) Prototype > > > > [4] M. Honda, Y. Nishida, C. Raiciu, A. Greenhalgh, M. Handley, and H. > Tokuda. Is it still possible to extend tcp? In Proc. ACM IMC, 2011. > > > > [5] Subscription link to HOPS mailing list. > > > > [6] IAB SEMI Workshop > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Taps mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps > >
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