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>> On 16 Mar 2015, at 14:07, Mirja Kühlewind
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Karen,
>>
>> section 3 should describe what currently is standardized. Am I right
>> that there is no RFC on CMT SCTP (yet)… and that this was/is the
>> reason that there was some discussion that this is out of scope? If so,
>> what the status of CMT SCTP? Will there be potentially be an RFC anytime
>> soon?
> Hi Mirja,
>
> this is an interesting question. It is not yet a WG document and the last
> time I asked
> for WG adoption, the question by the chairs was who would the consumer of
> the document
> be? A lot of people involved in implementing this in FreeBSD, the ns-2 and
> the INET
> simulator are already co-authors.
> I tried to get some support for stack vendors, but none of them wanted to
> make statements
> about future products.
>
> If there is a chance to progress this in TSVWG as a WG document, we would
> be interested,
> but I don't see why I should get a different answer when asking the same
> question again
> without having a relevant list of some "consumers" of the potential RFC.
>
> Best regards
> Michael
>

As tswg co-chair: that is more or less what I recall.

Importantly: There was no decision that this was outside the charter. So,
if there are developments or indications of greater maturity, then tsvwg
could revisit this and revive the work - but I'd expect the same questions
to be asked by the Chairs.

Gorry (with tsvwg chair hat upon my head)

>>
>> However, in section 3 if there are any similarities to MPTCP in SCTP,
>> either in MH or CMT, these could be described in a similar way and
>> potentially even refer to MPTCP or the other way around. If SCTP is
>> described independent of MPTCP that’s fine as well, or potentially
>> even better for the start. As soon as we then start writing section 4,
>> we anyway to have to detect those similarities and can still add
>> references or adapt the wording to use the same term later on.
>>
>> Mirja
>>
>>
>>
>>> Am 16.03.2015 um 12:52 schrieb Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>> Hi Mirja,
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having said this, I'd like to first see a complete section (3.2) on
>>>>>> MPTCP before we start to writing something on this in section 4.
>>>>>> However, I'm sure you could also help to provide some text in
>>>>>> section
>>>>>> 3.2...? That would be great!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that was the plan. I think the API for both SCTP and MPTCP are
>>>>> relevant in highlighting the underlying features of the protocol,
>>>>> even
>>>>> though these APIs are not what needs to be described.
>>>>
>>>> Yep. APIs should not be discussed in section 4. However, for the
>>>> protocol
>>>> description in section 3, if you look at the other descriptions, there
>>>> is
>>> also a
>>>> subsection on the (higher layer) interface. As you say there is often
>>>> a
>>> strong
>>>> dependency therefore I think there is a purpose to describe the
>>>> interface
>>> as
>>>> well (in section 3) to have a ground truth for discussion.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The synthesis in section 4 should come at a later stage, once 3.2
>>>>> (and
>>>>> perhaps a similar discussion in SCTP's section), have been written
>>>>> up.
>>>>
>>>> Yes!
>>>>
>>> [Karen ] Do you here refer to SCTP MH or CMT SCTP ?
>>>
>>> MPTCP include concurrency aspects which, for SCTP, only significantly
>>> arise with CMT SCTP.
>>>
>>> It has previously been stated that CMT SCTP would not be in scope of
>>> taps.
>>> Is that still the assumption ?
>>>
>>> BR, Karen
>>>
>>>> Mirja
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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