this makes a lot of sense to me

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> On 31. jan. 2016, at 16.05, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> I think documents that describe how the IETF got to decisions can be
> useful, providing useful insights to why things emerged.
> 
> However, I think they are more usefully published as an RFC when the WG
> heads towards the end of the design process - when its can be clearer what
> they need to contain - an ID can exist and evolve to capture the inputs as
> the WG heads towards its milestones.
> 
> Gorry
> 
>> Perfectly fine by me to incorporate that!
>> The main question on the table is: provided that we'll incorporate such
>> comments, should this be a product of the WG?
>> You say “this might be a useful document”, so I take that as a “yes” from
>> you…
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>>> On 31. jan. 2016, at 05.12, Joe Touch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This might be a useful document, but it seems like it overlooks a few
>>> "elephants in the room":
>>> 
>>> 1) lots of services use TCP or UDP because they want to work through
>>> NATs
>>> 
>>> 2) lots of services do just fine with the services provided by TCP or
>>> UDP
>>> 
>>> It would be useful to address those issues head-on. Otherwise, this
>>> really looks like a group that's looking under its own lamppost for
>>> solutions.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>>> On 1/30/2016 12:40 AM, Michael Welzl wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> Looking at the current charter items, when TAPS is over, folks will see
>>>> RFCs describing services of transports, an overview of what a TAPS
>>>> system should provide, and how it could be implemented - but they do
>>>> lack background unless they read stuff elsewhere: why is a TAPS system
>>>> even needed? What is so important about it? What are its benefits,
>>>> compared to simply building your own protocol?
>>>> 
>>>> I think it makes sense to provide these answers in an RFC. As part of
>>>> the effort to motivate the need for TAPS, such text was written up in
>>>> draft-moncaster-tsvwg-transport-services
>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moncaster-tsvwg-transport-services-01
>>>> 
>>>> Is this group interested in taking this document further? What do y’all
>>>> think?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Michael
>>>> 
>>>> 
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