OK but information is lost with excessive compression.  So, no heroics.  :)

—aaron

> On Jul 17, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Brian Trammell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> hi Aaron,
> 
>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 13:22, Aaron Falk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Folks-
>> 
>> Yesterday there was an interesting talk at the IRTF/ACM Applied Networking 
>> Research Workshop that is relevant to TAPS.  Since our slot is only an hour 
>> and our agenda already full, I would like to propose extending the meeting 
>> 10 minutes to accommodate it.  We’ll be eating into the free time before the 
>> Bits-and-Bytes social so I don’t think anyone will miss any scheduled 
>> activities but I am aware that folks sometimes schedule meetings during the 
>> breaks. I hope this doesn’t inconvenience anyone.
>> 
>> Here is the abstract of the ANRW talk and the updated agenda:
>> 
>> Implementing Real-Time Transport Services over an Ossified Network
>> 
>> Stephen McQuistin (University of Glasgow), Colin Perkins (University of 
>> Glasgow), and Marwan Fayed (University of Stirling)
>> 
>> Real-time applications require a set of transport services not currently 
>> provided by widely-deployed transport protocols. Ossification prevents the 
>> deployment of novel protocols, restricting solutions to protocols using 
>> either TCP or UDP as a substrate. We describe the transport services 
>> required by real-time applications. We show that, in the short-term (i.e., 
>> while UDP is blocked at current levels), TCP offers a feasible substrate for 
>> providing these services. Over the longer term, protocols using UDP may 
>> reduce the number of networks blocking UDP, enabling a shift towards its use 
>> as a demultiplexing layer for novel transport protocols.
>> 
>> https://irtf.org/anrw/2016/anrw16-final25.pdf
>> 
>> 
>> Updated TAPS agenda:
>> 
>> 1. Chairs update - 5min
>> 
>> 2. Update on draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage - 10 min (Naeem Khademi ) – 
>> updated draft promised by the authors.
>> 
>> 3. Update on draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-usage-udp - 5 min (Gorry 
>> Fairhurst) – already updated.
>> 
>> 4. Update on draft-gjessing-taps-minset - 10 min (Michael Welzl) - updated 
>> draft promised by the authors.
>> 
>> 5. Investigation on the use on happy eyeballs for transport protocol 
>> selection - 10 min (Anna Brunström)
>> 
>> 6. Post socket - 10 min (Brian Trammell)
> 
> I can do these as a lightning talk to make this go faster. So, s/10 min/5 
> min/..
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
>> 7. Socket intents - 5 min (Philipp Tiesel)
>> 
>> 8. Implementing Real-Time Transport Services over an Ossified Network - 10 
>> miin (Stephen McQuistin)
>> 
>> See you Thursday,
>> 
>> —aaron
>> 
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