Clarification: the request is to consider the minset (not mindset, thanks spellcheck) doc for **adoption**, not last call. Please try to look at it in advance.

—aaron (who’s having trouble with email today)

On 22 Mar 2017, at 15:00, Aaron Falk wrote:

While [the mindset doc](https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gjessing-taps-minset-04.txt) isn’t final (there are a few TBDs), it is mostly complete. As it is one of our deliverables it needs a thorough review. Please come to the wg meeting prepared to discuss whether you think the document is ready for wg last call and, if not, what your concerns are.

Thanks,

—aaron

On 21 Mar 2017, at 3:23, Michael Welzl wrote:

Hi everyone,

With one week having passed since this posting, and one week to go until the meeting, I thought I'd send a reminder - folks, please consider taking a look at this.
For a fast way of reading this:

- keep in mind that we removed all transport features that either don't require application-specific knowledge (knowledge that only applications have) or don't have a fall-back to TCP - start reading from section 4 ! This gives you about 13 pages to read instead of the total 35'ish, and it contains all the ineresting stuff. The pretty long section 3 can be used to go back and check, for things that make you go "huh??".

Thanks!
Michael


On 13 Mar 2017, at 17:06, Michael Welzl <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear TAPS WG,

This update addresses the feedback that we got at the last meeting: people said that this minset isn't much of a minset. ... that's because we had only worked on the first step: categorizing transport features such that the list can then be reduced.

Now, in this update:
- we've brought the list in line with the latest version of the -usage draft (the list is a lot longer now, and includes what we think are *all* transport features of TCP, MPTCP, SCTP, UDP(-Lite) ... except for TCP Authentication. We'll fix this one in the next version. - we then shortened the list brutally :) by only allowing "functional" and "optimizing" transport features, and also removing transport features for which it doesn't seem possible to fall back to TCP - we then wrote text discussing the strange list that we got ... some weird things there need consideration when designing a TAPS system - and then we made a first stab at constructing a "minimum set", derived from the above.

I hope folks will find this interesting despite its length - it captures several things that I've had in mind for a while, and partially talked about to people, but never really wrote up anywhere. A lot of love has gone into this document ;-)

Cheers,
Michael



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From: <[email protected]>
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-gjessing-taps-minset-04.txt
Date: 13 Mar 2017 16:55:05 CET
To: Michael Welzl <[email protected]>, Stein Gjessing <[email protected]>
Resent-From: <[email protected]>


A new version of I-D, draft-gjessing-taps-minset-04.txt
has been successfully submitted by Michael Welzl and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:           draft-gjessing-taps-minset
Revision:       04
Title:          A Minimal Set of Transport Services for TAPS Systems
Document date:  2017-03-13
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          38
URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gjessing-taps-minset-04.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gjessing-taps-minset/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gjessing-taps-minset-04 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-gjessing-taps-minset-04

Abstract:
 This draft recommends a minimal set of IETF Transport Services
 offered by end systems supporting TAPS, and gives guidance on
choosing among the available mechanisms and protocols. It is based
 on the set of transport features given in the TAPS document
 draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage-03.




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