Hi,

I took notes in yesterday's interim, you can find them in this pad:

https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-taps-interim-2018-09-12

Please review, and, in some cases, complete.

Thanks!

Best,
Theresa

On 12.09.2018 16:29, Michael Welzl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In case someone wants to take a look at these things before we start, or just 
> have the URL's handy, here's my "sub-agenda" for item 3 - the list of things 
> that I think we should discuss:
>
> - Message Dependencies:
> https://github.com/taps-api/drafts/issues/220
>
> - Niceness (Connection) vs. Niceness (Message):
> https://taps-api.github.io/drafts/draft-ietf-taps-interface.html#rfc.section.12.3.21
> https://taps-api.github.io/drafts/draft-ietf-taps-interface.html#rfc.section.12.3.22
>
> - Fragmentation Prohibited
> https://github.com/taps-api/drafts/issues/226
>
> - Timeouts:
> Appendix A:
> "Suggest a timeout to the Remote Endpoint"
> https://github.com/taps-api/drafts/issues/109
> (really a general timeout discussion)
>
>
> Talk soon ...
>
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
>
>
>> On 11 Sep 2018, at 09:43, Zaheduzzaman Sarker 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Good!!
>> Updated agenda-
>> AGENDA
>> 1. Partial Send/Receive, Tommy
>> 2. 0-RTT, Brian (to be confirmed)
>> 3. Connection & Message Properties, Michael Welzl
>> 4. draft-pauly-quic-interface-00.txt, Tommy
>> 5. Implementation & testing, Chair
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>> On 2018-09-11, 07:21, "Michael Welzl" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>> I can do that.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Cheers, Michael
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On 10 Sep 2018, at 23:30, Aaron Falk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's an updated agenda. Who will lead the discussion on Connection & 
>>> Message Properties?
>>>
>>> --aaron
>>>
>>> AGENDA
>>> 1. Partial Send/Receive, Tommy
>>> 2. 0-RTT, Brian (to be confirmed)
>>> 3. Connection & Message Properties, ???
>>> 4. draft-pauly-quic-interface-00.txt, Tommy
>>> 5. Implementation & testing, (Zahed, can you lead this?)
>>>
>>> On 10 Sep 2018, at 16:07, Michael Welzl wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 on these suggestions
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10 Sep 2018, at 20:08, Tommy Pauly <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. I think those discussion points are still relevant, as they've had 
>>>>> continuing discussion on the open GitHub issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Based on discussion, I think it would be helpful to add a conversation 
>>>>> to review Connection and Message Properties 
>>>>> (https://github.com/taps-api/drafts/issues/218), and go over which 
>>>>> buckets things need to be in, and standardizing how we talk about them.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to also share and briefly discuss a document I just posted to 
>>>>> explore possible QUIC mappings onto a TAPS-style interface: 
>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pauly-quic-interface-00.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. I'm happy to lead the discussion on Partial Sends and Receives, as I 
>>>>> wrote the change for that (https://github.com/taps-api/drafts/pull/200).
>>>>>
>>>>> I would nominate Brian to discuss the 0-RTT topic based on 
>>>>> https://github.com/taps-api/drafts/pull/214
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry we'll miss you on Wednesday, Aaron!
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tommy
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 6:48 AM, Aaron Falk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a reminder that we have an interim meeting scheduled for this Weds. 
>>>>>> Key questions to the group:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.    Are the topics below still relevant for discussion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.    Any additional topics we should add?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3.    Who's going to lead each topic?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A mea culpa: I had a critical calendar fail and have a personal 
>>>>>> appointment I cannot move at the time of the meeting so Zahed will be 
>>>>>> chairing the call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --aaron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3 Aug 2018, at 17:20, IESG Secretary wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Transport Services (taps) Working Group will hold
>>>>>>> a virtual interim meeting on 2018-09-12 from 11:00 to 13:00 
>>>>>>> America/New_York.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agenda:
>>>>>>> Draft agenda:
>>>>>>> 1. Partial Send/Receive
>>>>>>> 2. 0-RTT
>>>>>>> 3. Implementation & testing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Information about remote participation:
>>>>>>> https://ietf.webex.com/meet/taps | 316 448 940 Join by phone 
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