Dear Colin,

Thank you for your reply and clarification.  If I've understood your example 
correctly, then:

a).  The archive 'backup-thursday' will contain only those files not present in 
'backup-wednesday.part'

b).  If I delete 'backup-wednesday.part', then all the files necessary to 
create the complete backup (in this case, all the files) will be retained and 
transferred to 'backup-thursday'.  So 'backup-thursday' is now a complete 
backup.

c).  To delete 'backup-wednesday.part', the command would be 'tarsnap -d -f 
backup-wednesday.part'.  The reason I'm querying this is that you mention 
something about having 'delete keys'.  Could you clarify this please?  I don't 
see anything about a requirement for that on the Tarsnap general usage page, in 
the section relating to deleting archives.

Thanks again for your advice.

Regards,

John


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On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Colin Percival <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> On 03/19/14 07:39, John Gamble wrote:
>> Thanks for your reply and apologies for not noticing that bit in the manual. 
>>  So
>> if I've understood it properly, the answer is yes, Tarsnap can re-start a
>> partial archive.
> 
> Not exactly.  You can create a new archive, and any data available on the 
> server
> side -- if you hit ^Q or sent a SIGQUIT and waited for tarsnap to exit 
> cleanly,
> or from automatic checkpoints, or from previous archives -- will be used for
> deduplication in order to reduce the amount of new data which needs to be 
> uploaded.
> 
> But if you were creating an archive named "backup-wednesday" and it was
> truncated (deliberately or because it failed and a checkpoint was recovered)
> then you'll have an archive named "backup-wednesday.part", and you won't be 
> able
> to create a new archive named "backup-wednesday".  You'll be able to create a
> new archive named "backup-thursday", however, and then you'll have two 
> archives
> stored.  (After which point you might want to delete the first partial 
> archive.)
> 
>> I guess the command to re-start would be exactly the same as
>> the initial command.  Would that be a fair assumption?
> 
> Yes except that you need to pick a new name.  Once you create an archive with 
> a
> particular name, it cannot be overwritten -- it can only be deleted, and that
> only if you have the delete keys.  Being able to separate "can create 
> archives"
> and "can delete/destroy previously created archives" (see tarsnap-keymgmt) is
> very important in high security environments.
> 
>> If this isn't a completely thick question, how would I know the archive was 
>> now
>> whole and complete?  That is, no data missing or lost?
> 
> If tarsnap exits without errors, the archive completed successfully.  Also, if
> 'tarsnap --list-archives' shows the archive name (without ".part" added to the
> end) then the archive was not truncated.
> 
> -- 
> Colin Percival
> Security Officer Emeritus, FreeBSD | The power to serve
> Founder, Tarsnap | www.tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid
> 

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