There's a short film on Tommy Jarrell where someone hands him a
Stradivarius; less them impressed he asks for his fiddle back.
But he makes that Strad sound good 'n greasy. I wonder if that Strad
was ever made to make those notes before? Ancient tones indeed :)




On Mar 27, 9:30 am, [email protected] wrote:
> I have been wondering if it takes alot of work to take an instrument that 
> produces a Mozart Violin Concerto and make it scratch
> through Soldier's Joy or the other way around.
>
> On Fri 03/27/09  7:05 AM , [email protected] sent:
>
>
>
> > I too have flirted with the idea, and my partner said in a pleading
> > nearly desperate  voice....'ooooh, I wish you wouldn't do that'.  I
> > suppose he is thinking of all the screeching and yowling that comes
> > out when one is first confronted with using  the bow.  I gather one
> > can mute the thing which could ease local suffering some.  Robin, the
> > concern might be if you would be abandoned by your family ..ha..at the
> > outset of an effort.   I have talked it over with some fiddlers here
> > and they seem to think the first year is mainly about the bow side of
> > things using mainly open strings.  I wonder if I have the patience for
> > a year of that.  I confess I do watch how various folks use their bows
> > and have seen ..the good the bad and the ugly with that, there seems
> > to be a lot of delicate wrist work involved.
>
> > On Mar 27, 7:46 pm, Robin Gravina robin
> > [email protected]> wrote:> Funny reading this discussion first thing in the
> > morning: I was just> thinking about this on my way to work - after
> > watching that incredible> youtube video from yesterday. Actually I had
> > already decided learning fiddle> was an insane idea, without either giving 
> > up sleep,
> > or abandoning my> family... Hmmmm.
>
> > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Nelson
> > [email protected]>wrote:>
>
> > > > Thanks, everyone, for the advice.  I enjoy my
> > mandolin and try to stay> > true to the fiddle side of things when I am
> > playing old time stuff.> > The one instrument that I truly love is the
> > fiddle, though.  It> > doesn't matter if it is Bob Wills, Celtic stuff,
> > old time music, Honky> > Tonk or Hank Williams.  The fiddle does it for
> > me.  I have been> > listening to Eck Robertson alot lately.  He has
> > one tune where he> > drones alot and it sounds so much like pipes that
> > it is amazing.  Less> > polished than Monroe achieved with Scotland, but
> > still very effective.>
> > > > Do any of you have a suggestion for particular
> > books or DVDs that you> > have found useful or know are useful?  I've
> > played around with bowing> > and stuff, and think I can get the hang of it
> > pretty quickly.  I just> > don't want to form bad habits.
>
> > > > Thanks again,
> > > > Nelson
>
> > > > On Mar 26, 10:37 pm, solofiddle solofid.
> > [email protected]> wrote:> > > Go for it! Just remember, the first 30 years
> > are the toughest and> > > after that I hear it's a piece of cake.
> > haha> > > Seriously, if it calls you, then you will have
> > to do it. Don't let age> > > discourage you - it's all a matter of how badly
> > you want it> > > and that will dictate the time you put into it.
> > I know of many> > > examples of people coming late to some
> > instrument only to really shine> > > on it.
> > > > > Determination goes a long way to gettin' some
> > of that talent that you> > > might think others were born with.
>
> > > > > I was playing fiddle before mando, so I
> > essentially play the mando> > > like a fiddle - lotsa two-note chords, same
> > fingerings for everything> > > I would play on fiddle, etc.
> > > > > I'm pretty scatterbrained, so I am into
> > studying lots of instruments> > > and types of music at the same time. 
> > Variety is
> > nice! Also, the more I> > > learn the more I find some things related and
> > they can help feed each> > > other. For instance, I play clawhammer banjo
> > and in the last couple of> > > years I have gotten heavy into lap slide 
> > style
> > resonators and> > > bottleneck style guitar. And guess what - one
> > of the major tunings for> > > the slide style is closely related to the open
> > G banjo tuning, so that> > > helped give me some bearing right there. The
> > same tuning moves onto> > > the Tele with the low string removed and then
> > you're off into Keith> > > Richards tunes, which almost play themselves.
> > Then I might go off into> > > some James Brown funk on drums or guitar, and
> > then I hear banjo and> > > fiddle great Dan Gellert (in Fiddler magazine)
> > talking about James and> > > his emphasis on stressing the ONE beat and how
> > he does that in old-> > > time to open things up and make them funkier
> > than stressing the 2 and> > > 4 like most folks and so things move around in
> > circles!>
> > > > > When I took up banjo, logically it seemed like
> > a crazy idea - I was> > > still taking fiddle lessons and I had returned
> > to college as an adult> > > and I had no time for banjo. But, I was exposed
> > to it and it called me> > > and I met a great banjo teacher and things just
> > lined up perfectly!> > > The fiddle really helped the banjo, as I
> > essentially play the banjo> > > with the left hand the same way I finger the
> > fiddle, just on a larger> > > scale. Old time fiddle and banjo often use
> > altered tunings, and they> > > match up really well on the two instruments, 
> > so
> > once I discovered the> > > connection I could immediately play tons of
> > fiddle tunes on the> > > banjo.
>
> > > > > Let's look at drums - I took up drumset late in
> > life, just because I> > > had always wanted to. Finally got the guts to
> > try it! And so now I> > > play in an Oldies trio just for fun; and what a
> > blast it is! Seems> > > totally unrelated to my old-time music
> > pursuits, right? Well, drums> > > are all about rhythm, of course, and the 
> > banjo
> > is largely about rhythm> > > and now I am starting to combine drums and old
> > music, like acoustic> > > blues slide stuff. Getting into playing drums
> > and slide or banjo at> > > the same time! Turns out, that is an old Blues
> > tradition and there is> > > a specialty drumset now made to be entirely
> > played with your feet. Way> > > cool! So, things seem to connect in odd, fun
> > ways.>
> > > > > However, I recently saw the one and only banjo
> > player Leroy Troy, and> > > he said worried early in life about doing too
> > many things, and someone> > > warned him of having a split brain if he did
> > that and that he should> > > maybe focus on one thing. Well, it's obviously
> > working for him,> > > whatever he's doing, but my brain is split
> > several ways and that's> > > just the way I am!
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